I hate being a parent

I don't hate my kids, but I hate being a parent.

I hate not having anything even remotely resembling a social life. I hate changing diapers. I hate cleaning up after my kids. I hate driving some of them to school. I hate having to cook for them all the time. I hate listening to them fight, or cry, or beg for something. I hate having to take them to sports or activities so they're not bored. I hate having to keep watch over them when friends come over to play.

I hate being trapped in f****** broiling desert, backwards a** Arizona, just because a job pays well enough to support four kids and moving would mean working for about 1/2 the pay. I've wasted a third of my life in this f****** place because I can't afford to move because of these kids. I hate having to keep a close watch over my kids because I live in a f****** huge beige and cement city...the more people there are, the more sick f**** you gotta worry about taking kids.

I hate never being able to go anywhere new, see anything new, do anything new. School, meals, naps, sleep. I can't wait for them all to grow up and go away to college. Until then, I'm responsible for them. I'll be 52 when the last leave the house...I'd say half my life will be gone, and I'll have nothing but regrets.

The first kid was ok, I was 28 and figured I would make a good parent. The second got annoying by the time he turned 3. The third and fourth were definitely a mistake in judgement on my part. Should have just said "no f****** way" to the wife after the first two. There's times I can't stand the sound of their voices. A couple times I've even gone so far as to wear earplugs and ignore them for an hour or two.

I usually stay up late and deprive myself of hours of sleep, just because I know that the sooner I go to sleep, the sooner another day of dealing with my children will start for me. h***, I've gotta get up in 3 1/2 hours to take the older ones to school.

The brief moments of "oh, that's cute" are far overshadowed by the sheer level of s*** I hate about parenthood. Passing on my genes is not worth this. If I would have known I'd hate parenthood so much, I'd have gotten a vasectomy at 18.

And to top it all off, I don't drink alcohol. I never acquired a taste for it, and earlier in life had no desire to kill off brain or liver cells, nor give up any self-control. I think I'd like to learn to appreciate a good beer or well-crafted spirit, but I won't. How much more miserable would my life be if I let slip to the wife or others how much I regret almost all of my decisions of the past 18 years (moving to Arizona, having kids, and sometimes even including marriage)?

Why even bother typing this up? I feels a little better just to put it out there, and I know that nobody I know will see this or be able to connect this to me. I put on a pretty decent act as a responsible (and almost caring) parent. I've been living the lie for years.

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  • I'm childfree, I live within my means, I love kids but my family and best friend makes it their point to tell me the importance of having children. Apart of me desperately wants to give in to shut their mouths but after reading the many posts here, I think it's best to invest in my health and retirement. To all the parents out there who feel trapped and miserable, I sincerely hope that you all find some type of happiness and peace of mind.

  • I agree 100%. I have thought about suicide many times to escape. I feel like a trapped animal. Having kids is the biggest scam ever created. The moments of joy cannot compare to the total absolute misery they cause daily.

  • I totally wish I was stronger and didn't cave in when my wife insisted on kids. I'm 43 yrs old now and have wasted my whole adult life taking care of kids. the biggest problem is that I have no one to blame but me.

  • Omg. I couldn't agree more! Constantly people told my husband and I to have kids, you'll regret it if you don't, they are wonderful...this was 15 years ago. Never did I dream of feeling good this way as a result. I wish someone just would have shared a message like this once to me...just once two kids ago. I wish I was born in this day in time when people freely talk about not having kids. Had my first and immediately the regret began. Then I had a dumb idea...if I have another may be then this one will stay out of my hair and they will play with eachother not thinking about the fighting!! I want out so bad! But I can't...probably the worst feeling in life to have to go through bc it's a mistake that comes with it an 18 years sentence. I wish I would have been educated...! I'm mad at myself all the time because I made this choice. My husband told me he was bored at 22 and thought we should have a kid. So what did I do...okay everyone thinks we should anyway. People are a*******. I would tell anyone right now....don't have kids!! And share why but not once did we receive this information! Not until it was too late and we already began feeling the regret! I have a 2 and a 5 year old whom I love so much but am in constant turmoil. What torture this is...I'm trying to deal and still try to live my life but sometimes the regret hurts so mUch it brings me to tears. I have just graduated nursing school and have reached my goal weight of 120 pounds and look amazing. I still feel so down sometimes. I'm so glad there are others out there that feel this...I was beginning to think I'm just mentally messed up.

  • Wow you guys are all a*******. Have you ever heard of an abortion or adoption? If you didnt want to be a parent then give the kid(s) up to people who will actually appreciate them! All of you are selfish p*****. There are millions of women and couples that desperately want children but cant have them. Be gratefull for your kids.They are the ones who are going to take care of your old a** when your drooling and p****** yourself.

  • Really? The way american society and british ( were i live) structure family i dont think you can bet on that. Parents desperate for their children to move out, ( i have to beg My mum to let me move out) grandparents who doesnt care about their grandchildren etc.. Im a step mum full-time. And My Own mother come to take care of them from another country 5 times a year for 2 weeks each time so i can relax. The children Own grandparents who live a few our away by car wont do that. Lacking family values Is a dangerous thing.

  • Ya dumbass people who want kids. They wouldn't want them if they knew the hell they bring.

  • They Being hell if you dont ríase them properly and if you dont know how to compartimentalise and all you do Is be around your kids.! Go to work, hang out with your friends, go out with your partner, you can do the same things you use to do just not as much. All my friends have little kids we still go party on Saturday night ( not every Saturday but when we want) go out for dinners in couples and do a lot of adult social life without the kids. There is thing called grandparents and nannies

  • There Is also a thing called being a single parent with no family around to help. And the bitterness of paying out the ass to timebox a "fun activity" for myself for something most people (that being kid-less people) aren't paying a dime for...simply getting out of the house, in itself fuels the frustration and shines a brighter light on the fact that pleasures are a struggle to come by.

  • I went crazy when I was 'infertile'. Couldn't live with the idea of being childless. I now have two IVF kids and I love them for sure. But man, parenthood is a f'in bust. I never in a million years imagined that I could hate something so much. I didn't know I would feel this way. I am sorry if you cannot have kids - really. But be careful what you wish for. Might be a blessing in disguise. Just sayin'. And yes, I worry every day that they won't do well in life and will end up in my f'in basement. Pass me the bullets.

  • Actually, there's no guarantee that your offspring when they reach adulthood will be willing or able to care for you in old age as hoped.

  • My fucjking n***** wife put me in the corner, she locked my a****** and threw a noose around my neck and spread my a** and stuffed me like a chicken she pushed meat in my a** and now i have to s*** it out all over my f****** road map so i cant see whgere the f*** im going anymore thius life wasnt meant for me and my four RETARDED children, (ok only one of them is retarded) because my n***** of a wife was snorting f****** amphidextrine and cocaine solution out of a f****** nose spray bottle for the last four months of her f****** pregnancy can u believe that s*** this f****** b****. I cant legally probe it but every day when im changing that autistic faggots diper and pouring milk down his throat all i see is red and its fucjking ONE more autistic tantrum and visit withy his doctor thats going to send me over the edge my bank account is p***** itself all over the streets and im about ready to stick a gun so far down my throat that it lodges itself outside of my a****** and when i pull the trigger it will rip right through my a*** tract and straight into my w**** of a wifes f****** p**** so tyhat she cant have anymore f****** kids when i hate f*** her and spray blood c** into her f****** a**. I hate my life and i hate my four f***** kids and im going to tie myself off and crash head first into the first single male that i see for the offense of not going through what i go through every single second of my barren s*** f****** destroyed life i hate everything im going to kill myself right now

  • You are a scary piece of shit. Please kill yourself before you hurt your children. Saying "you can't legally probe it"... omg, you need to die. You need to be gone, like pronto.

  • Being a new dad 2months now I really know what it truly feels to not wanting to be a parent at least with someone you never really wanted to be with due to her constant nagging and lazy attitude towards our daughter with whom I love cos am from a family of 8 and I know what parents do to their kids and show how much they mean,but when I complain of nagging and lazy attitude it sterns from me birthing the child while the mother sits on her phone to me feeding her because she cannot breast feed because she never actually tried I knew all this was coming for a long time because her mom did exactly the same with her but it's unfortunate not all mothers know what true parenting is neither do all dads but at the end we can't choose our family and that's how sad I look when I see my daughter because she didn't choose to be in this but like I promise myself I will give her all I have because she is all I got.my only regret is raising a child with someone you don't love because of how their attitude speaks for them am very tolerant but sometimes I really wona get away but my biggest fail will be to leave my daughter in the care of her mother she will grow up isolated from life itself which I wasn't as a child she has cousin's from my part but none from my patner because she is the only child and am scared of her going in the same directions as her mom it will b a generation of no love if it goes on.

  • I feel like when I gave birth, I didn't die physically, but everything else died, my dreams, my personality,my life, my self, died. I have been trying my best to raise my kids the best I can for 9 years and my ex husband cant seem to understand why I've let myself go and become such a loser, I have never brought myself to tell anyone before how soul destroyed I feel

  • It's scary how this could have been written by me, just change the location and number of kids. Before we had children, my wife was constantly pushing me to have kids because she had always wanted them. I put it off for a long time, being a bit apprehensive and not having much to do with kids before I didn't know what it would be like. I finally gave in and said let's stop being careful and see what happens. Worst idea ever! She was pregnant straight away. Second kid was a miracle as I was using so much protection so as not to have another, but he made it some how (definitely mine, he looks like a mini me). I hate almost every moment of fatherhood. My wife and I are tired all the time. I do the late night thing too, so I can have some time to myself while my wife is asleep at 9. I got a vasectomy so to make sure of no more, except there was no point as there's barely a s** life with kids and our nighttime habits. I love my wife so much and couldn't leave her as she would be devastated. Plus I would feel so guilty lumping her with all the responsibility and hate the thought of all the judgement of leaving the wife and kids from friends and family. I wouldn't cheat, it's mean, plus who has the time for that! I'm so so depressed and no one knows, I try to keep it in. As far as everyone is concerned in just the cool, fun dad I should get an oscar for my performance. I hate my life.

  • You just have to organise your self. I have to step kids full time as the father ( my husband) has full custody. When that happened they were 7 and 8 and even tho they were not baby's they acted like it. Just got them to change their habits lost of discipline ( with love of course) and my husband and I manage to have sex not every day but almost. Sometimes you need to tell the children " I love you but go away you are being annoying " " amuse your self" " etc ... Show them to respect you as a human being who has it's needs and not like a maid for them"

  • I hate my life too and totally relate and I'm a mom. I miss my old life and wish I never had kids.

  • I agree with you and I'm a mother. I love my daughter very much, but ive been miserable since I got pregnant. I dream of the life I had before this.

  • I related to all of this. Love my kids. But wish I'd never had them

  • I feel this way more and more often lately and it's horrible. I am having one of those days where it's non-stop whining and crying no matter what I do and I'm home alone with them all week. I miss the freedom we had before kids and I feel like my marriage is massively suffering because of it. Always thought I wanted them and now it's my biggest regret..

  • It's annoying when a man feels like s*** I shouldn't have had children he's an a****** but when a woman says that that means she's pro choice give him a f****** break

  • Punctuation, dude. No idea what this says!

  • Wow, you have four children! Perhaps you could have considered stopping after the first one if you so vehemently "hate" parenthood? Guess what, there is a revolutionary new (!??) thing called birth control. Well, hindsight is indeed 20/20.

  • Why why did I have kids!

  • There are days when I want to get in my car and just leave. I don't do it because I know I couldn't live with myself. I have moments where I completely regret having my daughter. I gave everything I had to a kick a** career for 8 years and had to put it on the back burner so I could change diapers and watch Sesame Street. Being a mother is the hardest thing I've ever done. Being pregnant and then breastfeeding makes you feel like your body doesn't belong to you. And it doesn't, anymore, not really. You get smacked and have your hair pulled and some days you have to give everything you've got to not just walk away. But you love them. And it's family. And everyone is a pain in the a**. All you can do is try to not raise a douchebag. The planet is crawling with them already. That being said.... Side note..... If you don't have kids, you really don't have a dog in this fight. All of the " I'm baby free and loving it" s*** isn't helping anyone here except you. The f*** are you doing on a confessions about parenting thread anyway? Telling someone that they should have thought about this before and pulled out, worn a condom, etc.. is like asking a dead person what time they plan on getting out of bed. Hindsight is 20/20, a*******. People looking down on or assuming someone is stupid because they are a stay at home parent is about the coldest d*** thing you could do. If you don't live in the trenches of parenthood you have NO IDEA what you are talking about. s*** is brutal.

  • I understand all that but not all is black or white. If you had a kick ass career wouldn't have been better to go back to work after maternity leave? Instead of feeling regreat for what you left? Being Spanish and living in England I just see a massive diference in how women ( and men) approach parenthood. In Spain no woman will stop working to take care of her children, the don't need lots of time, but quality time. Maternity leave is just 16 weeks after that mum is back to work and baby to the grandparents who normally are very helpful , to the nursery or at home with the nanny and for sure the won't stop having a social life ( will relax a bit of course) I have been partying until 5 am with one of my friends and her husband just a moth after they had a baby. My best friend is Spain has 4 kids under 5 and she works full time and has a better social live than me ( she does have a nanny every day and a living in au pair) Spanish mums seem always happy and enjoy their kids. In England tho mums can't barely go back to work as there is like a social stigma of leaving a baby with a nanny plus they are a very paranoid society about living kids with anybody. Once kids are old enough to go to nursery you can't still go to work as you would need to pick the baby up before you work day finish, the same with primary school, schools don't help mums with transport or flexibility in pick ups or drops. Most families don't live in the same town/ citie as the grandparents which are normally not very helpful Women feel lonely, with lives that revolves around children and that can't go to do almost anything if is not with the children. Obviously this is not a fulfilling life for anybody no matter how much you love your kids. Is not about the kids is the way of life

  • Childfree people read these things to remind themselves why they do not want kids. I know I do.

  • Ditto.

  • Yeah, I thought the person saying "hindsight is 20/20" was being a jerk...but perhaps that's the only high and mighty moment that person gets. I feel like having kids is pushed on to everyone and you feel like you'll miss out on "the best part of life" if you don't, and then so many people go along this path and figure out it's hell for them. Abortion and adoption suggestions are such stupid suggestions on this site. Those don't come without major consequences or are impossible...it feels like parenthood is this situation that people get stuck in and are socially and legally and emotionally trapped for the rest of their lives.

  • The "appreciate them or give them to someone who will" is a flatly stupid suggestion. There are over 3K kids in the foster system in my state alone. While better than the terrible situations some of these kids were inevitably in - it's a flawed and lonely support system. Decent people can't walk away from their kids. Even if they desperately want to. And not every kid has someone to take them. Pressure to parent is real. It comes from everywhere. Potential grandparents, media, well-intended friends, and coworkers. I chose not to have them and until recently, was 99%. I still feel the pressure to make my final decision. It's not surprising so many find themselves in it before realizing it's not what they want. I appreciate the perspective of the parents here. I wish you some relief. Hopefully things get better.

  • I agree people with no kids shouldn't talk ...I don't have kids and I'm on the fence but reading you guys post definitely puts things into perspective. I guess that's why am here because I'm just I don't want kids in I want to see if having kids is really the best thing I can do like everyone says

  • You are so not alone in this.....you give up everything to raise decent kids

  • I do not agree, I feel is the way of life. The country you are in. And the support you have., I'm a very decent person. Morally and academically I'm a lawyer with a minor in economics and master's degree. Also speak two languages. My parents didn't give up anything to raise me. Not before their divorce or after. They have a huge group of friends, many of them since school. Went out for dinner at least 2 a week. My mum out with her friends every Friday. And every cultural event that happened in our city. Carnival, classical music festivals, etc... Holidays.. I would stay with my grandparent or a baby sitter. The had fun, always enjoy their life, so they never through at me that they had miss out something becous of me ( becouse the didn't ) I considered I had great parents who they still support me every time I need them. A child is a very important part of life not all your life. And I refused to let that happend but I guess is a cultural thing.

  • I'm a mother and I feel the exact same way. I never wanted kids and at least tried to prevent the second one from happening, but thanks to good old modern medicine that was a huge flop. I hate all of the same things you mentioned. I also deal with an ADHD child with emotional issues. Every day dealing with him is enough to make me want to blow my brains out. I hate it and so few good things happen that all I remember are this s***** ones. I'm that person who if they had the chance, would go back in time and change everything. And because of all this I feel immense guilt. I feel like all the bad that happens is because I'm ungrateful about what I do have. I hate my life.

  • Don't feel guilty! It must be frustrating being in situation you have zero control over. Take time to do the simple things in life to make yourself feel happy. Watch the sunrise or sunset, listen to music, cry and please be kind to yourself. We can be our own worst enemies!

  • Hang in there. Everyday is better than the next here, too.

  • I AM GOING TO GET MARRIED AND ALSO DO NOT WANT ANY KIDS BASICALLY I HATE THE IDEA OF EVEN HAVING KIDS OF MY OWN.BUT WHATEVER SOCIETY I AM LIVING IN WILL NOT ALLOW ME MY DECISION EVEN MY TO BE HUBBY WANTS KIDS "HATE IT"WHY THE h*** I HAVE 2 FACE ALL OF THIS.MANY A TIMES I WISH AND PRAY GOD IF AT ALL I BECOME PREGENENT AND GIVE BIRTH TO A CHILD PLEASE LET ME DIE DURING THE DELIVERY PROCEDURE.I JUST DO NOT WANT 2 BECOME A MOM.I DO NOT WANT 2 DO THE COOKING,DIAPERS ALL NIGHT NO SLEEP AND TAKING CARE OF THE KID FOR WHOLE LIFE "I REALLY WANT 2 SCREAM DAT I HATE BABIES"

  • I had to read your post a few times to figure it out. Punctuation helps so much. It sounds like you're married to someone who wants kids and you don't. That's a fundamental incompatibility...does he know you guys don't agree on this? Is it possible to anull/divorce?

  • I had to end my engagement because he wanted kids and I knew I never would. I loved him to pieces, but I love me more. I couldn't ruin my life by having kids I didn't want. You have to do what's best for you.

  • You have got it so right. Wasted my life raising two sniveling and bickering little attention intensive ingrates, and then having to settle for the odd crappy hand-job after begging wifey because she likes to sleep by 9 PM, and then having to remenisce about some teen sweetheart I used to boff, just so that I can get off from that s***** hamdjob and feel some relief. Oh f*** that. I have now built up a second household contents and saved enough for my own house and business. In my early forties and being a good looking guy with all of my hair and an above average face and good job thankfully, I've found myself clever, sexy, engaging women in their early thirties who want to bang the h*** out of me and have intelligent conversations and visit interesting places and earn the luxuries I have to offer. Why should I stick around with my 49 year old, always tired wife and two bickering little idiots? f*** THAT !! f*** it bro.

  • You are very selfish. I never wanted kids. I don't like kids. But it turns out that my 2 husband had 2. And wanted the full custody so here I'm am being their mum. Life is not always about what you want. But we do have sex almost everyday because we like each other. Is very disrespectful that you talk like that about your own kids. You raise them. No wonder they are ungrateful. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree

  • She's tired because she has your two children you fucking dumbass! Give your head a shake.. I know it's not easy and voicing how you feel is important, but you made your bed. You have grass is greener syndrome. Soon enough those interesting younger women will want kids and you'll be in the same situation. Im sure your wife had her own life once too and was also an attractive younger woman, but she chose to birth your little shits from her body. So put your big boy pants on and grow the fuck up. I'm a 27 year old mother and I fucking hate it sometimes too.. I get it dude but you are being completely self involved.

  • You selfish idiot - they are your children too and if you helped around the house maybe your wife wouldn't need to go to bed at 9. You are spending all that money on bimbos - maybe you should get a nanny instead and get your fun wife back

  • Almost everyone I know with kids has admitted to me they hate it sometimes. And many have also said they should have had one or two less. One kid seems to be the ideal in this world.

  • Nah one is still more hassle than it's worth, I realised very early on that I wasn't cut out to be a mum so I didn't have more... Doesn't help that my husband is just an overgrown teenager himself and so I basically have two.

  • Holy s***. Did I write this in my sleep? The only difference is I have 2 kids. Strongly considering a divorce. Half the money would be worth the freedom and loss of stress. Prison would probably half the money and half the stress.

  • WOW REALLY I AM A WOMAN AND I STILL AGREE WITH U

  • See this is the shit that makes me so fkn jealous of men... I can't walk away and just say fuck this shit because then I'm a selfish horrible mother blah blah blah but no that's not it. I was raised with a certain mentality of not agreeing with abortion but now I'm like omg KILL ME. Guys can easily just say no I'm done I'm leaving and yeah half the money is lost but they get so much more freedom while the female is stuck picking up the slack and lord knows I don't want this. I feel like pregnancy is the absolute worst fkn curse ever, childbirth is brutal, and the end result is absolute madness and misery. Not to mention if you get stuck with the fkn genetics of a fkn cursed whale, the damn stretch marks- weight gain. Omfg no. I was skinny, great body, toned and happy most of all now I'm 26 miserable and never have time to do shit because I have a job that keeps me trapped and just taken advantage of while I get not time to my damn self to workout, rest or even eat. I can list 5 different forms of torture I would rather endure than my life of time wasted and parenting with the risk of more children. Sweet lord men have got it way too easy and no hate here just straight jealousy. Oh and te worst part of it all is the lack of privacy, I've always had wuite the sexual appetite- nope not anymore. I'm not attracted to myself or my spouse and you know what they say "if you wouldn't fuck yourself who would want to?!". I can't even find something to be happy about because well there isn't anything. Parenting sucks. If I could give anyone advice is DO NOT HAVE KIDS OR GET MARRIED. Unless you can afford to get a nanny (that you won't wanna plow)---- or have the time to always work out and take care of yourself and make yourself happy...

  • YEP ME TOO WANT 2 JUST GET KILLED THANX 2 MY PARENTS NOW I AM TRAPPED WITH ALL THIS ETHICS AND ALL THE STUPID SHIT

  • Sameeeeeeeeeee.

  • Yep i could just copy and paste this feeling to myself. Just change a few things from AZ to OH. And were good. I cant drink either, i hate the taste, so i just smoke some wonderful marijuana to help get me through the dark days. Sadly i got some bad stuff right now so thats why you see me on here now...

  • Your honest and I understand completely. I hate being a parent too. It is a miserable mistake.

  • I hate being a parent too so I totally understand how you feel. Except my son is mentally retarded so I'm stuck for the rest of my life. Oh, wait. The politically correct term is "within the autistic spectrum." At least you'll be "free" when you turn 51. I'm trapped.

  • I love this it made me laugh just as I wanted to throw myself under a train. I feel the same way as I have a son who is autistic a daughter who is asdum as two short planks and an anannoying 4 year old. I would never let this out because I don't want to hurt them so im glad I can let rip here.

  • I don't feel bad for you. CONDOMS prevent this misery. Too late for an abortion.

  • Yeah, well my husband was tested multiple times... STERILE. Still ended up knocked up in my mid-30s with a kid I didn't want. If even one person had been kind enough to tell me how horrible being a parent would be, I would have had an abortion. But NO, everyone says "congrats" and how much they love it... they are all lying. They have to be lying to make themselves feel better and to add more people to the miserable tribe of parenthood. I would blow my brains out except then I really wouldn't have any opportunity to live the life I wanted. I wonder if I can sue my husband's doctor to pay for a nanny to raise this kid...

  • Not a bad idea mid-30's with kid...

  • Fuck yourself please. Condoms don't prevent shit. I was on four firms of birth control. Two kids later. Fuck yourself. Again.

  • Fuck off

  • Gee, a lot of hate for having kids in these comments. As a guy I can understand since I have my own and I certainly have my bad days with them, times where they really get on my nerves, where they are just simply impossible and even my own deep self doubts but I guess in my case I just came to a different view and maybe that's simply because my brains wiring was just always a certain way. In my case I'm glad they were born and I'm their dad despite all the lost sleep, medical bills, shared flu and being kicked, peed, crapped and vomited on many a time. Just thinking of not having had them in my life is naturally upsetting or thinking of something really bad happening to them or them disappearing like on the terrible news reports makes me immediately feel sick with horror. But I understand how this is not for everyone and empathize with the original confessors view and hope he can find something good amidst all of the disappointments and anger.

  • Thank you for your post! You are a beakon of light and desperately needed.

  • I wouldn't hate being a mom so much if the people who were supposed to be helping me raise my kids had helped me. Every time I see a couple taking their kids for a walk together I want to punch them.

  • If it wasn't for the kids, I'd left my wife years ago smh. Having kids is like having boulders hand-cuffed to each leg and carrying a sumo wrestler (wife) on my back. Getting nowhere fast. I wanted to be the fantasy man (Mr.Perfect/Right), but f*** it. If threaten, get married and have children or have your d*** chopped off, I'd be like "could you numb me first?"

  • You speak the truth

  • You've said everything I feel to the "T". Sometimes I feel like if I could trade in the wife and kids in for the world or at least a few million dollars, I'll do it in a f****** heart beat. How stupid of me to get an vasectomy after having two kids and not before? I agree, IT"S NOT WORTH AT ALL, SERIOUSLY! I think people who act like their kids and marriage are just the world to them are:full of s*** or REALLY like/love kids or only take care of them some of the time or have a lot of money (easier to deal with).

  • Not fucking worth it dude. So damn right

  • Dude...no one likes having kids...especially men. If they do, they are brainwashed, their wives are doing everything, or they have a nanny. I think they have to delude themselves, I bet there's a high correlation between people who say "Jesus Saved Me", and "I love my kids more than life itself." Having kids is the fucking worst....and what do you have to look forward to? After the tantrum years are over....you get maybe 4 good years outta them...then its teenagers.

  • I feel like this guy said everything I feel. I understand how you feel and hope it helps you to know that you are not alone.

  • Just this morning, I've nearly had it...but it's temporary. I only have one kid - I get it. Let me confess something that might help you. I was neglected growing up, with a father that was always travelling and never home, and a severely alcoholic mother. I had to take care of my mother so she didn't waste away, so I never had much of a childhood. I love my parents, but I'm not very close to them because of my experience growing up. We might talk once a year (I live on another continent). If there's one thing that you can feel better about with having kids, is that it's made you appreciate your old life more [life in general] - so just remember that when the kids do grow up and leave the nest and you have TIME to do the things you want to do, make sure you make the most of it.. Since having my child, I've realized what I want to do with my life and I think that's what's made it harder for me. Do what you can to keep on keeping on in the meantime, but please be as good and caring of a parent as you can. You may be a lot older when they leave, but when they do ... you have the rest of your life to do what you want.....just make sure you make it worth it. Good luck - I totally get it.

  • I agree with you to a certain extend, parenting is forever not until your kid move out. I'm 35 my mother helps me with anything I need. Coming over if I feel ill to take care of me and husband is away. Buying clothes I saw online and send it to me. Money ( not any more but if I need she will) housing me when I go home, cooks for me. Help me with house chores when she comes. Comes and stays for a week if I'm moving house to help, walks the dog, comes with me to the doctor... And her mum does the same with her.. You are a mum forever.

  • Thanks for sharing. Def puts things in perspective. X

  • I started crying when I read this. My husband left me and I am alone with the two children, one had ADHD. I also just realized what I want to do with my career and am trying to balance both while also going to school. I miss my freedom so bad and then the days I think it's so unfair he just walked and I'm trapped here with this hell. The sound of them constantly crying and complaining and the messes. I'm exhausted I try to tell myself it's worth it but my god I just don't enjoy being a parent !!

  • How are you doing now? has it gotten better?

  • You're the one who chose to get cummed in. NOW DEAL WITH IT

  • You're such an ignorant Fuck... this is a man that wrote his feeling... men always trying to down grade a woman, but you're probable one that's always chasing a female... trying to get some ass. SIT YOUR IGNORANT, DISRESPECTFUL ASS DOWN... WORTHLESS LOSER... SMDH

  • Oops... typo... "Probably..." And to the rest of you, excuse my language, and I didn't mean all men... just ones like this stereotypical, judgmental, asshole.

  • You dumb shit. Its a guy who is bitching and obviously you don't get it, so don't reply.

  • First I'd like to say I truly believe most of your problems stem from living in AZ! I'm from Boston - moved there when's son was 6 and stayed only 2 years! I was never so depressed. Luckily I had good neighbors who kept life fairly normal, but I started to have a couple of beers everyday to cope! Parenting is not easy, but at least you're doing it! If you need a laugh Arizona sucks website can give you some:) I'm guessing you are in Phoenix - I hate Phoenix. I had a neighbor who was from Mississippi and he use to tell his wife that if he died there she was to take him to New Mexico line to be buried lol! You're just tired, and let's face it everyday in Az is like f@cking Groundhog Day! Hang in there - try to take trips once in awhile for all of your sanity & move out of Satans playground as soon as you can! Good read : The Purpose Driven Life Good Luck! Your friend back in Boston!

  • Dude! Just leave!!! For the first few sentences I thought this was coming from the mom. If you are the mother you are screwed. You are stuck with the kids and your life is their lives. You cannot leave because society would stone you. But you're the father! Walk away!!!! You'll probably have to throw money at the situation but at least you can live somewhere else and get a more for-filling job. I am a mother and, although I love my kids, i hate this job. I love my husband but I think he hates parenting too. I have given him many opportunities to leave - all amicable. Why should we both have s***** lives?!

  • Sucks to be a kid growing up without a father too. Kids dont ask to be born, its a decision made by their parents. He should leave if his marriage is unfixable but honestly i fail to see why the mother should be the only one facing the consequences when both made the decision to have kids. Its difficult enough for two to parent these kids, so just imagine the burden on her if shes the sole parent. Leave the mother if thats what you want, but no matter how annoying kids can be, youre the one who put them into this world after all and the least u can do is be a little involved in their lives. You dont have to love having kids, but remember that there are enough neglected children in this world.

  • No one said it would be easy and nothing can prepare you for having children it is incredibly difficult that's probably why so many children get abused, neglected or end up dead. It's a unpredictable journey with many twists and turns where you can only try to do your best but remember they are innocent beings and did not ask to be here. Those of you who did decide to take the plunge on the up side having children teaches you the true meaning of love, who those without will NEVER understand. It gives you patience, compassion, selflessness and the ability to be less self obsessed even though at times one may feel like pulling out their hair. And for those who live in lollipop land it's completely up to you whether you want children or not I'm all for freedom of choice but don't make others feel bad about it we are doing humanity a favour after all and if YOUR parents felt like you did you wouldn't be here enjoying the "luxurious" lifestyle your leading. Just take a minute to get your head out of your a** and remember the important things in life- the fast cars, big houses and money can't look after to you when your sick and dying it can only pay for strangers (who don't care about your actual welfare) to do that and all those material objects will certainly not mourn you after your dead and buried. Just a thought

  • Just because you have kids there is NO guarantee that they will take care of you when you get old and/or sick. When my grandfather on my dads side was in hospice all he wanted to do was go to his home to die ( which by they way his youngest son of 5 still lived and never moved out of) and my uncle refused. He couldn't "deal with it". So instead my grandfather died in some shitty nursing home a week later while that same uncle would go and get stoned. My other uncle who was power of attorney pretty much just used him his whole life and stole his money. Then when my 94 yr old aunt came down with dementia not one of my uncles , there are 5 sons on my dads side, was there to help care for her. If it wasn't for my mother ,who has no relation but through marriage, she would have ended up in some nursing home. Her own blood grand-daughter that she hadn't seen in 20 yrs only came to put her name as POA and pretty much walked away with about 50k and left her to rot with no money for her care. My mother took care of her for 3 yrs nonstop with the help of around the clock nursing aides. I, of coarse helped when I could. Now, on my mothers side it doesn't get much better... Kind of the same bullshit. 5 siblings, my mom lives out of state, Grown sons still living at fathers how with wife, kids and wife's extended family and my grandfather in his little room over drugged so he would sleep all day. Now my uncle and his wife are RNs and there were several time where he had to be taken to the hospital due to dehydration and malnutrition. He passed away last summer and it has come to light that my uncle and his wife were also stealing money from him to pay for cars and tvs and shit. My grandfather did have an aide that would come a few hours a day when my uncle and his wife would be at work. And they became close. I'm telling this story because sometimes family SUCKS and those people that got paid to care for my family were more caring and compassionate then blood!

  • Well that shows you the kind of values that people had! I rather die that let my mum o my dad die in a home! Shameful!

  • You talk about compassion while you speak down to people who didn't choose the same life as you did. Funny how you think you are better than others just because you had a kid. Even 15 year old drug addicts can get pregnant. You think you achieved something with breeding. Well, funny, but in 100 years no one will know your name unless you do something really important to humanity. How do you do humanity a favor with breeding, can you please explain? There are 7 billion people in the world and we are running out of resources.Also, we remember people because of their achievements. I remember no one just because they had a kid. And if you really had kids just because you wanted someone to wipe your old ass, then it is you who are selfish. Your kid didn't ask you to be born. And about death. I will be dead. Why would I care who will mourn me? You talk about selflessness and compassion, while you are one of the most selfish and judgmental person I ever heard. You even generalize. You really think that just because we don't have kids, we want expensive stuff all the time? You know what? I think you're jealous and it's you who want all these things, but you can't get it, because you're stuck with a kid and now you are projecting these things on us. Just reread what you wrote. You have NOTHING from those good personality traits what you have listed.

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  • Why do people want children? Its pretty much the worst thing you can do to destroy your freedom. I would never have a baby, even if someone payed me a trillion dollars, seriously. All I see every day is mothers shouting at their kids. Sometime I think women just have kids so they have someone to shout at and control.

  • Its horrible... Dont ever have them

  • U are smart and I wish I had this knowledge 2 kids ago

  • Someone who sees and speaks the truth.

  • I highly agree with never having kids, however I have one. Its an absolute nightmare. Some of us were born to have children and re produce, however I don't believe I was and now I am sitting here on a blog posting comments instead of doing something productive like relaxing. All I can hear is my child in the background right now screaming and I feel like shooting my self in the F****** face. Babies suck and I know what's coming next, soccer practice and cheese its all over my brand new 2014 Trail 4Runner (White) Lifted - super clean... not for long. After that I will be expecting two ovulating females in the house all stung out on "life" leaving nasty bowls of ice cream in the house for the ants to crawl all over, so I can clean the Sh** up (and that will never stop). Lets move on to the teen years when my daughter hates me because I wont buy here an iPad 50 for her 13th birthday. She is 4 months old and has sucked the living F****** daylights out of my bank account. So I continue to ask my self, why the f*** did I NOT PULL OUT?????? Since the day at the hospital I have pulled out every single time and will never in a million years nut in another female for as long as I live, I don't give two Sh*** how good it is. I am so glad I have had visions of how this whole child thing will play out and for this reason I will never have a second, third and holy sh** man, I feel so bad for you, 4 KIDS????? YIKES!!!! I totally understand why people shake their babies, I have not shaken my baby, I am not a f****** weirdo, but I get it. My advice for anyone who likes to travel, eat food, hang out, relax, drive, sleep, relax, eat, sleep , eat, sleep, hates headaches, hates cleaning, hates a messy house, hates people bitching in your ear all day, to NEVER HAVE KIDS. To the ladies out there, why????? Seriously WHY?????? For all the men out there its simple PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT!! - BG

  • This made me laugh so hard! God, thank-you for being honest.

  • You bitter mother fucker. I feel you. It is not as much the bad out weighs the good but that there is no fucking good and none on the fucking horizon.

  • Message from nonbreeder: Life is fantastic. Obligations, almost none. Focus on work when I want to, but only when I want to. I can pick up and leave anytime, because no kids = massive optionality and freedom to say, "f*** you, I'm out." And mean it, and follow through, because I owe responsibility to no one. Wonderful. The significant other and I, we love our life. Making money hand-over-fist. That money is invested. And then the investments pay us as well. Every month, every quarter, we have cash coming in. We never worry about money. We never ask "how much?" Instead we ask, "do you want it?" Wonderful. Our time is ours. We can jet on a moment's notice, whether it is out for a fantastic brunch, a short weekend vacation, or international travel. Book the flights (always first class), book the hotel (always five star) and boom, we are gone. Truth. I wouldn't give up this life for anything. Because I never have to worry about the garbage that is the medical/educational/parental industrial complex, and it's time-and-money sucking tentacles. To h*** with that lifescript. Wonderful. Yes, the childfree really do live fabulous lives of freedom and truly personal fulfillment.

  • I envy you but can now join in! My blood sucking 3 ungrateful daughters are now grown, I let them know, deuces, I am out! I do very little babysitting, dont give a fuck! I am in my 50's, look 30's. my former string beanpole body is now curvy and I get hit on all the time. I live by myself in an awesome apartment and I wake up dancing and smiling every day. Motherhood was horrible, single motherhood after the divorce was worse than prison, just a godawful nightmare and I would rather.be.dead than do that again! As I write this, am planning a trip to Paris again, they love Black women over there, oh yeah! My children now are doing the parent dance with their own children, I am like, Bye Felicia, I so love life now that I am on my own. If you are unsure about have children, I have one word for you, DONT!

  • I envy you but can now join in! My blood sucking 3 ungrateful daughters are now grown, I let them know, deuces, I am out! I do very little babysitting, dont give a fuck! I am in my 50's, look 30's. my former string beanpole body is now curvy and I get hit on all the time. I live by myself in an awesome apartment and I wake up dancing and smiling every day. Motherhood was horrible, single motherhood after the divorce was worse than prison, just a godawful nightmare and I would rather.be.dead than do that again! As I write this, am planning a trip to Paris again, they love Black women over there, oh yeah! My children now are doing the parent dance with their own children, I am like, Bye Felicia, I so love life now that I am on my own. If you are unsure about have children, I have one word for you, DONT!

  • I envy you but can now join in! My blood sucking 3 ungrateful daughters are now grown, I let them know, deuces, I am out! I do very little babysitting, dont give a fuck! I am in my 50's, look 30's. my former string beanpole body is now curvy and I get hit on all the time. I live by myself in an awesome apartment and I wake up dancing and smiling every day. Motherhood was horrible, single motherhood after the divorce was worse than prison, just a godawful nightmare and I would rather.be.dead than do that again! As I write this, am planning a trip to Paris again, they love Black women over there, oh yeah! My children now are doing the parent dance with their own children, I am like, Bye Felicia, I so love life now that I am on my own. If you are unsure about have children, I have one word for you, DONT!

  • It is truly shitty to post a comment like yours to a forum of people who cannot ever have what you have. We have kids, that never ends. You don't (for now; many of our problems stem from accidents that no one is safe from, and I almost wish this on you, you haughty fucker) and have no working idea of what the people on here arts talking about. This forum isn't for people like you, so why are you even here? Nobody likes a braggart.

  • Ah yes, I shall very soon be joining your club from this little tax haven I live in.

  • Why are you even here on this forum? For the record not all people see no kids as "baby free" some people see it as "baby less". I struggled for years to have a baby and now I have one and god its harder than I ever imagined..but better too. I think it's really oddd you've come here ...for no apparent personal reason...to lord your wonderful lifestyle over everyone with kids...wth?

  • I highly agree with never having kids, however I have one. Its an absolute nightmare. Some of us were born to have children and re produce, however I don't believe I was and now I am sitting here on a blog posting comments instead of doing something productive like relaxing. All I can hear is my child in the background right now screaming and I feel like shooting my self in the F****** face. Babies suck and I know what's coming next, soccer practice and cheese its all over my brand new 2014 Trail 4Runner (White) Lifted - super clean... not for long. After that I will be expecting two ovulating females in the house all stung out on "life" leaving nasty bowls of ice cream in the house for the ants to crawl all over, so I can clean the Sh** up (and that will never stop). Lets move on to the teen years when my daughter hates me because I wont buy here an iPad 50 for her 13th birthday. She is 4 months old and has sucked the living F****** daylights out of my bank account. So I continue to ask my self, why the f*** did I NOT PULL OUT?????? Since the day at the hospital I have pulled out every single time and will never in a million years nut in another female for as long as I live, I don't give two Sh*** how good it is. I am so glad I have had visions of how this whole child thing will play out and for this reason I will never have a second, third and holy sh** man, I feel so bad for you, 4 KIDS????? YIKES!!!! I totally understand why people shake their babies, I have not shaken my baby, I am not a f****** weirdo, but I get it. My advice for anyone who likes to travel, eat food, hang out, relax, drive, sleep, relax, eat, sleep , eat, sleep, hates headaches, hates cleaning, hates a messy house, hates people bitching in your ear all day, to NEVER HAVE KIDS. To the ladies out there, why????? Seriously WHY?????? For all the men out there its simple PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT,PULL OUT!! - BG

  • I'm a mother and I'm sick of reading all these posts from stressed out dads making it sound like the' lazy wife made me knock her up then she got super fat because she does nothing all day'. Fuck you. My husband wanted kids, not me, and I've said since before this one was even born NEVER AGAIN. I hate being a mother; I used to have a great body and energy and fucking happiness. Not now! I've never gotten back down to not being a goddamned whale because I work and have no fucking life except for the job I hate and the kid I hate raising. And I'm mommy so I CAN'T CUT AND RUN because, as another poster said our society will stone me. I can't even stand being a wife anymore and hate having to fuck my husband because he's the piece of shit that did this to me. Think about that next time your wife gives you a shitty hand job; maybe she fucking hates you and her pointless life s much as you hate her and yours. And feeling like a big fat hog doesn't make anyone feel sexy, ever. For the record,I was on birth control but guess what; antibiotics for step throat made it not work. My husband helps a lot but if he ever left me in this hell I'd kill him and myself. So again, fuck you.

  • I am a guy but I know what sorry ass motherfuckers we can be. Children suck and they grow up to be shitty adults. I can't stand any part of this parenthood and can't keep up the fuvking facade any longer.

  • Dude leave the family you've made and give them a chance to find someone who wants to be with them. You'll do nothing but damage them with your shitty attitude. You do not sound like someone I'd want around my kid. Yuck.

  • Daaaang that's harsh. I too am child-free but I feel sorry for this guy. Although, after the second one you'd think he'd get the hint.

  • "I'll be 52 when the last leave the house..." That's funny. He thinks they're gonna leave the house.

  • "I hate never being able to go anywhere new, see anything new, do anything new. School, meals, naps, sleep. I can't wait for them all to grow up and go away to college. Until then, I'm responsible for them. I'll be 52 when the last leave the house...I'd say half my life will be gone, and I'll have nothing but regret." Oh boy do I have some bad news. One or even none of those kids may not go to college. At least one may end remaining home well into their mid-late 20's due to the s***** economy and lack of work. Source: I am almost 26, still living with my parents. Went to college while still living at home with them, still can't afford to move out.

  • I had my vasectomy last year at 25 and things like this thoroughly reinforce my faith in my decision. Although, my faith in that decision has never gone astray, what with the motorcycles and street luges and unicycles and worry-free s** with a hot girlfriend. You should try learning to unicycle. It's a meditatively awesome experience and your kids will be jealous.

  • I never had kids because I knew this is exactly how I'd feel. I have nothing but sympathy for you. That and cold shivers going down my spine in a "there but for the grace of birth control go I" sort of way.

  • +1.

  • You sound like my father when I was little. I always knew he resented us and would pull similar stunts to yours. Here is the thing. You aren't fooling your kids. They know you don't like them and even resent their existence. I hope this post came after a particularly bad day because if this is how you feel daily, get a therapist to help you deal with the choices YOU made. Your children did not ask to be born. They are here solely on your judgement call. You can either embrace the life YOU chose, or be p***** off that it isn't all about you anymore. Your kids aren't going anywhere for a long time and when they do finally leave, they won't come back. I know my father regrets how he acted towards me when I was little and would like to have a relationship now, but it just isn't happening. We will only ever have a light and topical relationship because I remember how he used to make me feel. Maybe you aren't happy with how things are right now, but you get out what you put in. If you would prefer to have an arms length relationship with your children forever, keep doing what you are doing.

  • "Your kids aren't going anywhere for a long time and when they do finally leave, they won't come back." Thank God for that.

  • So finding out that you don't like where life has taken you is being selfish now? Someone has no right to feel feelings that they never knew they would feel? Maybe you should get in your time machine and go back and give this guy a crystal ball so that he can gaze into it and see your perfect 20/20 hindsight. It's funny that you air out your daddy issues then tell HIM that HE needs a therapist.

  • Maybe not , but the kids might need one :(

  • Sorry man, I feel for you. And AZ is a total s*** hole. Get a job with Intel and then transfer up to PDX; it's nice here :-D

  • Weird that you don't like Arizona. As a child-free adult, I moved here specifically because of the year-round warm weather and no f'ing snow. After 10 years, I've come to love this harsh environment and the fact that it's a terrible place to raise children. :) The more time I spend here, the more convinced I am that I'll never leave.

  • I have 3 kids. It sucks. The only and I mean only thing that isn't a complete and utter punishment is when they are little and want to cuddle or when they are quiet. But the quiet only means more rooms in h*** are being prepared for you to discover. Not to mention they prohibit any real accomplishment in life. No time for anything but little bastards....

  • I have a friend in this situation right now. 3 kids. He only wanted one. The first was a healthy boy, and my friend was content to stop there. Constant guilt trips from his wife finally broke him down and when she got pregnant, it was twins. So now three kids, a complete b**** of a fat, ugly wife, and a life spent catering to them all. His weight has ballooned, he eats horribly because he has no time to make himself a decent healthy meal because he's pretty much raising his kids alone because the pig can't handle to take more than one kid at a time. Her own kids and she can't even take two to the mall, or appointments. Now these kids were all planned, no accidents, although you can't predict twins. Both parents make a good living so money isn't really an issue, but whether or not you have one child, or two, or four, one thing we can all agree on is that there is nothing that will change your life more than having kids. My wife and I have no children, and never planned on having any. We devote all our time to each other first, our health second, careers third, and family and friends last but certainly not least. I have told my friend not to remain in this relationship as he has become a shell of his former, happy, healthy, self. He refuses to leave and be a part time Dad. So he is staying for his kids, not for his wife. What I consider to be a waste of his life. As well, one of his twins has developmental problems. Once again, no ones fault. Just another reminder that having children is far more work than the Hallmark card that so many people would have you believe it is. So if you are in the situation of the guy above, or of my friend, you really do have options. And while this may be the place for it, b******* and whining isn't one of those options.

  • Absolutely ridiculous that he can't eat healthy because he has kids. By that reasoning every person with kids is fat and unhealthy. I have kids. I'm a size 8, eat a largely raw diet, walk, go to yoga AND I'm poor lol...sounds like a total lack of personal responsibility to me...and hey lets back that up with him walking away from his family too! God.

  • Go away

  • If you hated kids,you shouldn't have had them. You made an irreversible mistake,and you will suffer for the rest of your life-as simple as that. That goes for everyone,including commentators. Jesus,if only people were more mature,this world would be so much better.

  • Not everyone realises how fucking hard it is to have kids. Everyone glorifies it, and convinces people that the only way to find true happiness is to have children. And as someone who is childfree, the pressure to have kids can sometimes be overwhelming, and some people crack. Especially when that pressure comes from the one you love. It's not all black and white. There are many parents in this guy's situation.

  • Dude fuck you, kids aren't always planned, and who are you to be on suck a fucking high horse? Suck a dick.

  • There are never accidental kids. Just accidental pregnancies. Don't hurt yourself thinking too hard about this.

  • Men are frequently forced into parenthood due to entrapment. Think about it.

  • Yes, that happened to my friend. Together 3 months and bam! She was knocked up. She planned it... Had her eyes on him for a while. Now she has a baby, a new huge house, a new SUV style BMW, a ring on that finger and he's putting her through an expensive nursing school. Plus, he had to get a second job to support his new instant family. I don't feel bad for him though bc me and some of his other friends warned him to be careful. And he was careless. Be careful boys. ( this is coming from a woman).

  • Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me four times...???

  • If youre very keen on staying childfree, then its simple: use protection and have sex with a sane woman. Protection can fail, but if these men you speak of would have used protection and judgment, it wouldnt have happened frequently like you say.

  • 4 kids "just happened"? oops! Think about it, moron

  • I feel like I could have written most of this myself - it fits my situation so well. I'm a teacher, so I spend my days with other people's kids. Then I come home, and there are my 3 kids. It's like going from one job to another. And now, during the summer, it's even worse. My wife is still working, and here I am, home with the little ones all d*** day. I love my children - I really, really do - but my God they are needy. I have a 14-year-old, who needs money and rides everywhere. A four year old, who craves attention and throws tantrums when he doesn't get it, and a 9-month old who, now that she can crawl, requires me to watch her like a hawk. Oh, and the last time my wife and I even shared a bed, much less had s**, was when that 9-month-old was conceived. The saddest part? I don't even really miss the s**. I'd rather sleep.

  • Jesus, you have it harsh. I don't know how you handle it. You must have balls and nerves of steel. I am not worthy and I do not aspire to be either.

  • I use to work at a school and when I use to go home i also felt I had another job. I use to take out my frustration with my don because I use to crave time away from children. I soon realized that my son is way more important than my career and decided to change careers. It was the best decision!! Now I enjoy spending time with my kids, at least 90 % of the time :). It sounds like u would benefit from the same things, your kids will detect your feelings so your stable job with great benefit and retirement is not worth it!!!!

  • Due to your lack of punctuation and general understanding of economics and reading comprehension I'm going to assume you're a stay at home mom. His dissatisfaction isn't with his job. It's with his progeny.

  • Although the tone might be a bit harsh, he has a point. I chose not to have kids. I have a great cabin and land where I want to live far from schools/soccer leagues/etc. I have a great job that does not pay, but I enjoy almost every day. I've been able to travel often and for long periods of time. I've been able to pick up and move when I wanted. I have never once felt I missed out on anything by not having kids. Almost all my friends with kids secretly tell me they wish they'd not. Advice to young couples considering a child: Don't. (to paraphrase Ben Franklin on marriage) Having a child is an act of selfishness-- you create it to satisfy your needs. Having a child is not for the kid-- it doesn't even exist. Taking care of a child is not selfish, but the decision to have one is. If you want more love in your life, I highly recommend a good dog.

  • Shame on some of you! You're judgemental jerks. Seriously. These people have every right to feel this way, and I wish more people would stop acting like having children is some magical experience. Kids are terrible, and literally take everything out of you. I had two brothers, and two sisters that I played mama to as a young child. I absolutely hated every single minute of it, and know exactly how these parents feel. I just chose to never have them since I know what terrible things come of them. One of my "miracle" siblings is a drug user that just lost her "miracle" after he was abused. She even "had no idea" he was being fed muscle relaxers by her ex roommates when they : "Babysat" him. Not everyone should have kids, and there's a lot of reality in this. Stop pushing your brain-washed opinions, and insults on others.

  • All these comments, and the original post just make me feel so bad for those who made the decision to have kids and now regret it. I knew I never wanted to be a mom, so I have made sure I have never gotten pregnant. I am so glad I have the choice to be childfree!

  • You are stupid. It's your fault you let it get to this now deal with it. Either leave your wife and kids or stfu and keep on losing what's left of your life. I'm just glad as a woman this will never be me. I'd rather die than let my life dwindle into motherhood. Brittany.

  • Don't think about your wife. Don't think about your children. Think about you; it's OK. What do you need? Do you need a divorce? Do you need to work out a custody agreement so that you see your kids on weekends, or once a month? Consider if that would be better than what you are experiencing now. Simply put, this is a bad situation with no perfect solution. You have to consider what the best actions and best outcome would be for you. Think things through carefully. Consider things with your wife and see how she responds. My two cents is to put yourself first. If other people think that's horrible, f*** them. It's not their life, it's yours. Live for yourself, and make decisions accordingly. You decide if you want to stay in your marriage and stay with your family. You decide if you don't.

  • I really hate being a mother. I wish that I'd never had kids. I feel completely imprisoned by my life. If only I was a sick psycho and could just abuse or neglect them, then I could get on with my life and not care. But unfortunately I actually love them and want them to have a good life, so I do all the stuff - try to feed them right, enrich them, nurture them, teach them all the while getting almost nothing in return. No thanks, no money, no appreciation, no social standing, no job satisfaction. I'm a nobody, whom nobody notices and my kids may not even realise how much I do for them in the future. h***, they may even hate me. It's an endurance run, but it's one I seriously fear I may not finish. All I can say is keep on going.

  • I'm so sick and tired of all this Jesus Christ b******* that's cummed up my f****** a** about having kids and "pleasing The Lord" through childbearing. I was raised in a mormon home and culture where if you didn't have 12 kids Christ was going to come down and f*** you up the a**. I didn't read anywhere that Jesus ever had kids???!? f*** that cross-barren f***** if he was ever real to begin with. f*** Joseph smith too, that lying child molesting con artist little f***.

  • This post made me laugh. It was very entertaining to me at your cost of course. I'm not at your point or even close yet, I have two kids. I'm gonna share this with all my friends because it's so funny to read. Paul Parker, CO

  • I totally relate to this. I have a spreadsheet in which I am counting down the years until I get what's left of my life back. Can't wait for them to be gone, but youngest is only 7.

  • I hear you. I have 3 kids and they are the most annoying s*** machines I have ever had to deal with. Let me explain something to you ladies out there, you make the decisions to have these d*** kids and all we have is the responsibility. Bottom line, is leave my wife if they were never born because I can't stand her either. Kids suck! They are the reason I had to leave Miami and move to s***** a** Riverside California with her horrible disgusting family in the hot a** desert. So all you people out there that say that you should have thought about that before you had kids can eat me. My wife made my life into this catastrophe because she thought kids were a blessing blah blah blah! f*** that! I used to love life. Now I can't wait for it to be over!

  • Yeah, to me death will be well earned effin' rest. Blessing my ass. Can't wait to kick the bucket either.

  • Dude I live in neighboring Norco, so I understand when you talk about shitty ass Riverside!!! Fuck that downgrade from Miami to Riverside! My condolences man. Yeah Im a chick and Ive known since 4th grade I dont want kids and have been on BC for 10 years so Im child free. Sorry your woman sees them as a blessing bc poop Im sorry but something that is a poop, pee, vomit, and money burning machine is not a freakin blessing, its a nightmare.

  • Why on Earth then did you have FOUR kids?? You should have learned your lesson after the first one.

  • It's like you didn't even read the rest of the post.

  • Lol yea for real.

  • Thank jesus i never had kids, i am a 37 year old married guy, nice job, good money travel once in a while, own a couple of rental properties, nice house and happy as heck. I still hate kids but i hate their parents even worst because they act like idiots when it comes to their little brats, listen dont take your kids to the movie theater or restaurant if they are going to whine, just because you haveto suffer with them dont make others bare your cross, so keepthem at home until they can behave like human beings.

  • Fuck you man. you have no idea how insane having kids makes you feel. you can't just stay home. you would start killing everyone.

  • Omg so true. Having child free people judge the fuck out of you because you can't predict the unpredictable behaviour of a two year old in the supermarket despite taking every goddam thing they like snack they want blah blah makes life impossible.. Ok lets ..as a species..just not breed becuse my son might slightly annoy some smug child free fuck nut in the local market. Great idea.

  • No I think he does understand how insane having kids makes you feel as to why he opted out on having them. I opted out as well and your comment here shows me even more that I made a good choice bc I dont want to deal with how insane having kids would make me feel, as you put it. Ive seen plenty of examples from my friends posts on FB to seeing my brother and best friend deal with them regularly to know being a parent is not for me. I have mad respect for those that are though.

  • It's hard because when you tell the little shits to shut up (in said restaurant)... some childless winner tells you that you are an asshole. Like they have any idea what its like. We 100% try to only eat out when the fucks are having a "good day" because I don't want to be the asshole with screaming kids. (going to restaurant during superbowl) I love my kids, and I actually really love my wife. I don't want them to not exist, but this shit kills your soul. I miss my wife and I being able to DO STUFF, dinner with friends, sex, travel, etc. I despise what my life has become after having children. I feel like I was tricked by life. (this is obviously not the case) I hope this helps someone somewhere To sum it up, now my wife and I have resorted to drinking heavily, and when we drink we have to stay quiet or the fuckers will wake up and ruin our buzz too. Maybe it depends on personality type, she is a much better mother than I am a father. Some guys revel in being a dad. I hate it. SAVE YOURSELF/LIFE/MONEY/FREEDOM

  • You need to move on. You're an incompetent dad who doesn't appreciate your own children, your flesh and blood. How did you mom raise you? Leave now, so you can enjoy our selfish, immature life, and leave the real parenting to your ex-spouse, who will appreciate your a** being gone. Your kids don't deserve you, or man-up to what you have created. You have issues, and your children need you. Man-up!

  • Fuck kids I hate the bastards

  • You don't get it. He is a good dad, just fried.

  • Die then.you don't have to live.

  • Not ok.

  • Ok those that don't have kids will flip out because they still live in lollipop land. For those of us with kids. We know. We understand. We hope it goes away very very soon lol. Kids are the hardest thing it's one hundred and ten percent give give give. And they take take take. The end payment...screams cries good thrown at you whining ... Actual abuse from the kids from tantrums.to punches in the nuts...it's rather horrible...frustrating...and we are expected to be leave it to b***** land...if could id leave my kids with the b***** family and watch them terrorize the whole show lol. Nah but really today you feel postal. Tomorrow you"LLC feel like you can't live without them again. Every day brings new experiences. Yes you'll be fifty one day so hire a babysitter or leave the wife with the kids and leave for a two week vacation

  • I love lollipop land, you self-righteous shit :) Enjoy crotch fruit.

  • Why would those that don't have kids flip out? I don't have any, and reading this guy's post makes me thank my lucky stars that I had enough sense not to breed!

  • Leave the wife with the kids?? Oh yes, because I'm sure she doesnt ever feel the EXACT same way and that's completely reasonable and fair. How about they BOTH go, leave the kids with grandma and grandpa, and run away (forever, if possible, but 2 weeks would be a good start).

  • Greetings from Lollipop Land! It's freaking awesome here! We get as much sleep as we want, and we can have nice things! Are we "selfish"? Perhaps. Or maybe you're just jealous. Have fun getting your life energy sucked out of you by your little vampires. Next time you and your litter get cut off in traffic by a snazzy little BMW roadster, that'll be me - the Lollipop Guild throws one hell of a party, and I wouldn't want to miss it. BTW: don't bother trying to come back at me with some lame comment, because no matter what you say, you'll still be wiping the crap off your rug-ape's butt and worrying yourself to an early grave, while I'm livin' the dream.

  • Okay, I'm child free myself, but I'm wondering why the rest of you are posting stuff like the above. No one is looking for it. My heart goes out to these people, men and women alike. I'm happy for my own decisions but I'm not gloating about them.

  • This person is right, pure envy. When I read rug-ape I almost shit myself. I wouldn't trade my daughters hugs for anything...unless they never existed

  • I hope you crash your little pansy BMW roadster & die a painful death. You sound like an idiot so you probably will. As much as my little knuckle-head bugs me & sometimes I wish she wasn't there, she's still more of a bad ass at two year's old than you ever will be. Smooches from the farm in Kansas you jack ass! ;-)

  • Hate to tell you this but your "two year's old" probably still poops their pants. Not very bad ass. Also- trying to seem "bad ass" while typing on a "childfree" subreddit forum, from a farm in Kansas no less? Really? Go milk a cow and get over your jealousy. (It's really hanging out there...) Me & Lollipop land dude don't give a rats a$$ about your poorly thought out kid. We don't change any diapers, we don't wake up to crying in the night time, we don't have a screaming mouth to feed and I for one wouldn't trade that for any number of "bad ass two year's old."

  • Boo hoo, bitch. No go wipe the snot off your special snowflake's nose, it's running AGAIN. Don't forget to change the diaper. Inhale that smell - the smell of your future. Spoiler Alert: It's SHIT. :)

  • Wow such an idiot. Poo is really not a problem. You get used to it in about a week...hey did you know one day you'll be old and shittting yourself and it'll be MY kids tending to you in a retirement home? Bet that wipes the smug look off your dumb fucking face. How much will your awesome lifestyle matter then? Not at all.

  • Why would your fucking kids be working in a retirment community u fucking retard

  • OMG I just died from laughter

  • Hahahahaha sucky to be you should have kept it in your pamts r*****

  • WTF are pamts?

  • U mother f****, if u feel that way about kids u shouldnt have any on the first place! Cut ur dik off or get an operation ,sorry a** excuse for a parent! U think u would learn after the first one and u feel like s*** after the 4th one? Ur a fukin idiot!!! Get ur head out of ur a** and if u hate kids plz give them to unfortunate couple that cant have any and would love to take urs, or just shoot urself on ur full of s*** head for thinkin that way, if u think that ur kife suks bcause of ur kids then f** urself instead of a girl so u dont have any more, i wonder if ur parents felt the same way after they had u,,?? I feel sorry for u kids for having such a dushbag as a dad!

  • Found the nigger

  • And if you have kids, I feel sorry for them too - it must hard having somebody as stupid as you as a parent.

  • Someone's jealous!!!!!!

  • This is appalling. An uneducated rant by a demented person who almost certainly regrets their own decisions.

  • Yeahh... Dushbags...

  • Umm... you spelled douche wrong...

  • They spelled just about everything wrong.

  • I so understand you. i have 2 kids that i love n would do anything to protect them but i REALLY REGRET HAVING KIDS! I had a amazing life before i had them and now i have all the money i want and cant do or go anywhere that i want. I miss my freedom, sleep...... I cry everyday and regret every minute of each day my decision. Sometimes i wish i can leave and never come back and i would do it if only my first child's father was a good father like my second childs father. I even say it out loud to my husband and family that i hate being a mom. I wish one day not to feel this way ;(((

  • Bunny.

  • I am really sorry to hear this, but it's great that you vented your feelings online. At least YOU are honest about feelings most frustrated parents try to cover up every single day of their life!! (Insert here: many awkward conversations with coworkers and friends whose quality of life obviously suffered under the pressures of parenthood.) I knew very early on that I would hate screaming fuzzy bald babies, incapable of controlling their bodily fluids. I hate toddlers creating havoc, throwing temper tantrums, being irrational, and unable to speak English (or Dutch, in my case :D) in a proper way. Am I just cold? No, but I am an adult, preferring adult stuff and adult conversation. I seriously lack the patience of having to listen to squeaky little voices 24/7. I could not handle 10 years of drama from 4 human babies and toddlers. I think anyone who can, even if they are fed up with having to do it, is a saint. Having that said... I think it is commendable you are hanging in there and are still married and living with your family. One consolation: things WILL get better when your kids get older. They may live in the house for a longer period of time, but you will be able to have a reasonably sensible conversation with them in a short while. Lastly... People, please read his post before making random accusations. Parenthood is not all rainbows and lollipops! He is not jealous or trying to be an a******, period. He is just frustrated and he has every right to feel that way. Oh, and just for the record: I am a woman, I am majoring in Philosophy and Cultural Studies, and I will not be having children (big surprise). I respect people who have kids, but I don't expect them to be better human beings than I am, i.o.w., I expect parents get frustrated with their children too. I don't understand why some people are so upset about this post.

  • Why are you googling "I hate parenting" and waxing lyrical on your temperament and wonderful life ? Do you just go around choosing ways in which you feel you have it better...Google it...then find people who don't...and tell them all about your life? Weirdo.

  • Yeah. Not a drinker either. Think I could be though with the parenthood thing. And I'm always the bad guy if I so much as utter such sentiment. I've been living the same lie for several years now. Don't know what to do with it.

  • Thank you for having the courage to not keep your head tucked into the sand. Speaking honestly about the way that most people feel is taboo and as the comments display, make people very uncomfortable. To deprive ourselves and everyone around us of honesty would to be deceiving them into decisions we KNOW they wouldn't be happy in. That's what's going on in the child worship culture. Deception. Telling someone they're walking through a rose garden when they can SEE it's just a field of dog poo is lying to them. People perpetuate their baby fever by latching their own baggage onto other people's lives (it's different when it's your own, you'll feel differently once you hold it, they're so cute, you can live your life through them over and over). Honestly I'd think being a parent would be f****** horrid and awful. So I'll do my part and stay child free. Have the talk about having kids with your own kids. Tell them they're not bound or obligated to have children.

  • I def feel this way a lot. I'm a new mom. My son haut turned 14mo and I already can't wait till he starts school so I have some of the day to myself. His father is useless in the helping with the baby dep. prob why we broke up. But anyways. I love my son to death I just regret having him now at 25 vs 35. I have no social life and all I do is sit home all day with my son and clean and cook for him when the day is thru I still haven't showered and only had a coffee n a sandwich....yet my son gets washed everyday And 3+ meals a day plus his 5 bottles of milk! Phew that felt good to vent. Ur def not alone dude

  • Wow, you're jealous of your own son. How nice you are. I'm sorry but from the way you are speaking you DO hate your son. And if you barely have time to shower, how the fuck are you on the internet venting your selfishness away? Besides, did you think raising a baby was easy???

  • You're a horrible person. She's a new mum, alone, and just expressing herself..took about two minutes out of the drudgery of her life to say "hey this is hard" and loom at your response. You suck.

  • You realize that young babies don't really do much, you just have to watch them so they don't crack their skulls open, right? So poking around on the Internet while keeping a kid alive is relatively easy, but taking a shower where you can't watch them is hard.

  • You're an idiot. Her post in no way implies or explicitly states jealousy of her son. To berate her and tell her that she hates her son is pathetic. No one knows what to expect before they have a child and it's ridiculous to imply otherwise. You seem like the type to not be happy unless you are running someone down. Everyone, at times in their lives, feels stress and despair re: their situation whether they created that situation or not. One day, you will be there. Hopefully someone will have the maturity not to kick you when you're already down.

  • I feel the same way... I feel trap with both of my kids. I feel like a horrible mom when I have these thoughts. I can't wait for them to grow up and be self sufficient. Husband will never know that I tied my tubes because I didn't want anymore kids. I wanted to have 4 but after the second one I change my mind. I love my children and would do anything for them but I am definally not mom material.

  • Be honest with your husband. What kind of marriage do you have that lying to him about pretty major surgery is okay?

  • It's her body and entirely choice, none of his business. I do think she needs to tell him she doesn't want anymore to avoid getting his hopes up for future children with her, but she is in no way obligated to tell him about her tubal. Which isn't actually a major sugery. Just invasive.

  • Um, it is his business because they are in a marriage. You should know that is how relationships and more importantly marriages work. Other than that, I totally get why she would get them tied because kids are hard and not worth it all the time.

  • Just give them up for adoption, so that they will not feel like a bother. Bitch.

  • Are you actually serious???

  • I suppose you think adoption is a cure all. It isn't and it's is born out of lost.

  • Omg, how can you say they were a mistake? :-S What's wrong with you, man? You'll probably end up abusing them or something, you a******! Nobody forced you to have kids. They are your kids, you should lvoe them like your life. What if someone said you were a mistake? Don't you have a heart? Selfish j***. You're p***** that your own kids yell from time to time. Well I felt bad for you until you said they were a mistake. f*** you!

  • You're a repulsive sack of rotting anuses. Given how intelligent you've demonstrated yourself to be, I'm gonna rest easy knowing you'll eventually set your genitals on fire.

  • Your comment made me desperately search for a downvote button that, alas, wasn't there. So I'll settle for saying that you are one of the most unpleasant, judgemental people I've ever met and I've only read a single post by you. I hope you're a troll or else you must have an IQ in the minus figures.

  • I am glad I read this before having children myself. Put perspective out there, and to be honest everyone reading this will and should know that children are little s**** that will be your new sadder uninteresting life. Why? because we were all kids at some time everyone can remember how much s*** we have and sometimes still do to our parents. Know what your getting into!

  • I wanted a child so badly and rushed into it. I knew I'd have fertility problems I was a stepmother and wanted my husband and I to share a child I wanted to be pregnant and have another project afer I got married. I worked in child care and was totally stressed there I should have known that being a mom would be hard. I have a 4 year old stay home with him my husband is an over the road trucker. I'm not happy and can't wait for him to grow up. Being a parent is hard I wish I thought more about it before I jumped into it. The only reason I wanted a 2nd was to be pregnant again and feel close to my husband who is gone all the time. I'm glad we decided not too and are def done. Just wish I thought about it more before my son such a huge decision.

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