honestly- where in the bible does it

honestly- where in the bible does it say being a homosexual is wrong?

because i never once saw anything about it, and i was raised a christian. all i saw was leaders of churches spewing hate speech. it made me sick. no one should be judged that way.

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  • Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, Romans 1:18-32, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, 1 Timothy 1:9-11

  • F*** FAGGOTS!

  • The sections of Leviticus that those prohibitions show up in make interesting reading. For example, in those chapters, every single verse before and after the "no gaysd" verses deals with foreign religions. And if one studies, it turns out that a lot of old semetic religions had having a*** s** with a priest as a way of securing some of a god's magic for good fortune.

    Those verses weren't about gayness in general, they were about gayness as a magical rite as practiced by Yahweh's foreign competition! So as long as you don't have gay s** as a magical rite, the Bible has nothing bad to say about it. (In fact didn't King David and the shepherd Johnathon have this flamboyantly gay romance?)


  • it doesnt, bible says don't be a w****, be happy. but people are retarded so they takes stuff out of the book, and translate it 50 times.

    its a book of morales not history.

  • And the only way I see it and it's said a lot. "God created love" people choose to judge other people casue they don't like the things their "SUPPOSED"to like. Just cause you don't see the same s** attractive doesn't mean other people don't. You live your own life so stop worrying about other people's live's. If your not doing it or don't like it, keep it to yourself. Some people do find it wrong but you don't hear them preaching about it. It's the life they live and it's none of your business. So get a life of your own and stop worrying about other people's life. And this is coming from a straghit guy who "SUPPORTS LOVE"

  • You people are so stupid. I hate it when dumb people try to use unproven fact one way or the other. The fact is there is no proof either way. The verdict is still out. So all of the Christians have no proof that you are not born gay and all of the gay people have no proof that you are. Do any of you ever do research for yourselves or do you just listen to what you hear on tv.

  • um, yeah... i am bisexual and i DID NOT choose it. i have ALWAYS liked boys and girls.

    that "nehhh, h***'s choose to be dat way, yo" thinking is SO f***** up. i am terrified to come out because my parents will disown me.

  • There's plenty of "proof" of the genetic basis of homosexuality--we find it in virtually the same percentage of the population across geographic, ethnic, and cultural boundaries, and in most of the higher primates. That can only happen because of biology. But, of course, genetic predisposition doesn't dictate behavior, so to some extent gay s** is a "choice." But as I said above, who f****** cares? A bigot is a bigot, no matter what book you quote. Ancient prejudices don't justify modern-day discrimination.

  • ^Ummm, being gay is so not comparable to selling drugs. . .what a brain-dead argument. People sell drugs to make money, dumbass. . .people are gay because they are NATURALLY PHYSICALLY ATTRACTED TO THE SAME S**. . . notcie the word "natural". . .being gay is not a choice, otherwise would so many people force themselves into a life where they are constantly being judged and put down by people like you? You are such an idiot. . .and you still have answered how evolution causes homosexuality. Dumb ass.

  • The bible does state that female homosexuality is wrong. And what proof do you have that we are born gay? There is none because we aren't. It's funny how people hear something on tv and then run with it as fact. And they choose to be gay for the same reason somebody chooses to sell drugs. The same question can be asked Why do people choose to sell drugs if it's only going to land them in prison or dead. But you are certainly not born a drug dealer.

  • god didn't write the bible, stupid overbearing men did. most men think they're god, so i guess these ones decided they'd write a book about it.

  • The disciples weren't homophobic--they were gay! They followed an attractive young man around, kissing and hugging, bathing his feet, letting him feed them from his plate, and ultimately agreeing to "eat him" as a way to really get to know him...it's the gayest religion in the world!

  • leviticus is outdated, and is rules to save a dying human species. we are not dying. we are overpopulating the fuckng planet.
    OP, god did not teach bigotry and hate. god taught love, and ONLY love.

  • So I guess the bible thumper has 3 people arguing with him now, I guess he gave up!

  • The Bible doesn't state that female homosexuality is wrong, therefore, it is incorrect to state that the Bible states that homosexuality is wrong. It is correct to state that the Bible states that male homosexuality is wrong.

    The fact that only male homosexuality is banned in the Bible, and the fact that whoever wrote the parts of the Bible which banned homosexuality were probably male, and those males were most likely straight, and could have been homophobic, just shows that those people were most likely writing from their own ideals. Ok, God could have sent messages to the individuals who wrote the Bible, but they corrupted it, most likely. God may have been involved, but man wrote the Bible, when all is said and done, whether or not some deity intervened.

  • It doesn't matter if homosexuality is inborn or a choice--you're still a bigot. Being conservative or liberal is a choice. Being married or single is a choice. Being religious or non-religious is a choice. Having an abortion is a choice. And all of them are choices given to us by our system of government--a system based on reason, law, and democracy, not ancient superstitions and prejudices. Quote the bible all you want--it doesn't make your bigotry reasonable or moral. It just proves that you have no conscience of your own to consult. People like you quoted the bible for centuries to justify slavery, the oppression of women, the violence of the Crusades and the Inquisition, the genocide of the Native Americans, and most recently, the "divine plague" of AIDS. Your bible-thumping has about the same credibility as an Osama bin Laden video.

  • It is a ridiculous thing to say that people choose to be gay. Why would someone choose to an outcast of society, not be allowed to marry, to be disowned (in some cases) by their family? Is being straight a choice? Did you wake up one day and say, "Hey, I think I will like girls today?" I highly doubt it. The attraction of one human to another is totally uncontrollable and natural. . . .we don't all of a sudden decide to be straight, we start to have "feelings" about the opposite s**. So, why is this any different for a homosexual? And, if it IS their choice, why are so many homosexuals leading "straight" lifestyles, and repressing their feelings for the same s**? You can quote the bible all you want, but the fact is: God didn't write the bible. I believe in God, and I beleive in Heaven, I do not believe most stuff written in the bible, because man wrote it. Furthermore, I do believe in creation, and I think it is a very empty-headed response to say that homosexuals choose to be that way. . .why is it that they usually know from early childhood (even before attraction begins in any human) that they are "different" from others? You are closed-minded, and honestly a little stupid. Now, if you have a valid argument, I would love to hear it, but the fact is, that you don't and never will.

    Oh, and you still didn't answer my question. . .how does one "evolve" into being a homosexual?

    That is another ridiculous argument that is impossible to support.

  • Hey OP, if priests can justify tapping altar-boys, what are you worried about?

  • Well it's also in the New Testiment as well.

    26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their l*** one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.(Romans 1:26-27)

    And it is debatable that people are born gay. Nobody is born gay it's a choice.

  • ^Agreed!

  • The Old Testament also has laws that call for executing adulterers and thieves, stoning prostitutes, making wives and daughters the "property" of their husbands, surrendering a daughter to be raped as a means of "hospitality," not eating various unclean foods, and on and on. So if that's your justification for bigotry, you belong in the Stone Ages along with your primitive religion. Thank God for the Enlightenment and the principles of Reason that our country was founded on! And thank Jefferson and Franklin that religion was officially separated from the State, so that we don't have freaks like some of you imposing your barbarism on the rest of us.

  • ^I am the 2nd and 4th comment, so who are you thinking is GG, cause it is not me.

  • lol, straight people can have gay babies what kind of retarded s*** is because they can't reproduce it will fix its self. Damnit, GG I thought we talked about this. Also, to say evolution made them gay is stupid, it is a choice not nature.

  • Oh, ok, so do you believe in evolution or creation? You probably will get on this post and argue evolution, but being an uptight closed minded christian, you will get on another post and argue creation. So, you use the evolution argument when it is convenient for you to prove an unprovable point? How would evolution cause homosexuality? That doesn't even make sense.

  • Evolution did that. And because they can't reproduce, the problem will correct itself.

  • ^Ok. . . .so why does God make gay people? It is undebatable that gay people ar born gay, so why are they created that way?

  • Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination".
    Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them".

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