I allow my child to smoke
I smoke four packs a day, and have for a long time. My six year old girl recently asked me to let her puff on my ciggy. So I did. She asked to do it repeatedly all day. By the end of the day, she wanted her own ciggy. So I gave her one. Since then, she has been smoking like a champ, about a pack a day. I somehow feel guilty but not really. I actually don't think it's all that bad for her to smoke.
Recently, I cut down to 2 packs a day because I am pregnant--3 months. I just don't think I should deprive myself just because I a pregnant. I expect my new baby will want to smoke too, and I don't have a problem teaching it how to do it. I love smoking more that anything. I don't think I'm all that bad, but my friends say I'm wrong. Any comments?
Cate
Surely you people who are crying out for you to call police are not mothers. This would undoubtedly cause greater divide between Lola and yourself. If that happens Lola be lost to you forever. I would be devastated should Ren and Lilly be taken from me and they aren't my biological kids. That doesn't stop me from loving them to death. In fact it would be fair to say that I love them more than my biological twin baby daughters, Summer and Liberty.
When girls are young, they make our arms ache and when they are older they make our heart ache as I've experienced with Ren and Lilly. I was a little b itch growing uo myself. I've learnt to be tolerant and I've witnessed them being brought home by police in a drunken state and I can tell you it's not pleasant being questioned by cops at your door asking if we knew of their whereabouts, the threats that may happen next time they breach laws where they're not to venture. I symathize with you at the prospect of her losing your daughter and I ask that all here show you the kind of respect and empathy and just reflect on your imposition.
We can only hope that Lola appreciates what she had at home, you are no prude and you have allowed her to have s ex, drink and smoke. In time Lola may realise her accommodation arrangement and chosen "career" is not for her and she returns home. I further hope this arrangement is merely a" honeymoon" and Lola will finally let go of this sadistic f ucking mongrel who can claim ownership by branding her. I wonder in what other ways he mistreats her?
All the best and stay safe.
Belinda
Just a quick update.
Lola came home a bit ago and informed me she was moving out and going to live with Phillip. She said Phillip and his two older brothers would be over tomorrow to collect her and her belongings. You must understand, Phillip and his brothers all live at home with their mother, so I suspect she is a prime mover behind all of this.
She then ordered me (ordered!) to call the school in the morning and have her removed as a student, as we were moving out of the area as to the reason. If I didn't follow these instructions, I would have to deal with Phillip and his brothers.
Then she showed me something I was not prepared for. Her ** and clitoral hood had been pierced with jewelry. To top it all, Phillip had branded her (with a heated iron) on the back of her shoulder with his initial to show who "owned" her.
I'm sitting here in fu*king shock. And I just don't know what to do but cry. The really difficult thing, is accepting the fact that this seems to be what Lola wants.
Perhaps I should just accept the inevitable, as I seem powerless to do anything.
One last thing. Phillip had Lola give me a flash drive. On it were multiple pictures and videos of Lola with many boys and men. Many. The threat was obvious, with nothing being said.
I'll close for now. I need a drink and some time to decompress.
Cate.
U can by law until your daughter turns i think 15 or 16 years of age that is the law ring the police i know the law lola having ** at ten is a crimminal offence and phillip can be charged she has to stay at home that is the law u are her mother from greg
Greg,
Yes correct.
And what do I do about the flash drive with all the evidence. Evidence that will become public.
Also, Lola seems entirely willing to proceed into this lifestyle. She could just run away, and I'll have lost her forever.
I guess I'd rather have a nine year old prostitute, as opposed to no daughter at all.
Cate.
Look a ** worker was murdered 2 days a go she was 12 please ring the police before it is too late have common sence please
Sorry. No police. That's final
Greg,
Yes, you are correct
Now tell me what I should do when the evidence on the flash drive is made public.
I suppose It's better to have a nine year old daughter as a prostitute than lose her forever.
Cate.
It is mad public the police will get in volved and u could be charged because u know what your daughter is doing a ** worker get yur daughter a moove out sooner the better please please
Come your daughter next taking drugs pills etc then your daughter mite die
If u do not ring the police u are an iddiot
Cate,
This may be longish so I'll grab my cigarettes because I need to smoke as this is disturbing news and I feel for you. I spoke with mum about Lola and Phillip while Ren was present. Mum wanted to answer your post but she thought you may think she's being harsh with you because she hasn’t written to you for so long. She reminded Ren and I that about 2 years ago she got us to read an article in the Sydney Daily Telegraph about a young girl who was being used in a prostitution ring and was eventually murdered. I can't remember whether this happened in Sydney or overseas or had the protection of older girls like Lola is getting but after investigations it was found that this girl's murder came about she was getting more s ex than her female "girlfriends' and that she was a lot younger .
Ren and I like the idea of being escorts and mum said she has no problem in us doing that when we're 18 provided we do it in a safe environment like a 4 star hotel in the city that has security and an emergency alarm ,even if we have to charge more. She sees the attention we twins get and it's often said that men like to have s ex with twins. Mum went to teachers college with a woman she's still in contact with who paid her way through college from money she earned prostituting herself. The thing that annoys me is that we have to be 18 before we can prostitute ourselves but are legally allowed to have s ex at 16, yet there have been cases when kids go to court to get approval to marry, some as young as 14 or 15.
Ren and I love s ex so why not be paid to f uck? guys tell us they love us when they're f ucking us but all they want is a ** so we tell them they're all bull
** and they don't tell us they love us anymore.
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Cate,
Mum said Lola has been going out with Phillip for a few years now so what makes him think he can be so controlling over her. She's asking whether Phillip retains Lola's proceeds from her prostitution.
I would never let a guy control my life like that and if he tried, I'd be telling him to f uck off. He doesn't own her, nor does he own her c unt.
Those two posts were from me.
And I hope Lola drops Phillip like a bag of f ucking sh it, Cate.
Lilly.
Lily
It seems as though Lola is dropping me.
Cate.
Lola has been seeing Phillip for a long while.
He presents a nice image in the beginning, but I see now there was always an ulterior motive.
But I disagree with you on this point - He does own her, mind and body, he owns her.
Yes, she turns over all her earnings to Phillip, ans he lets her have some back for her own needs. The big stuff, like tattooing and jewelry, he buys, but then she "owes" him.
Cate.
Lily,
It's been an unsettling weekend for me.
I mentioned that the relationship between Lola and Phillip had cooled and now I know why.
It seems Phillip has been pressuring Lola to have ** with anyone he directs her to. Apparently, he basically wants to ** her out to anyone. Her provocative mode of dress makes her very attractive, and Phillip is actually making money off her "work". He has taken her out the past few months on weekend nights and she walks the "stroll", with other girls, who sort of look out for her, because of her age. He also took her to a tattoo artist and had a "queen of spades" tattoo put on her right ankle. Since she's well under age, I guess he paid the artist on the sly. He told her, she belongs to him, and it doesn't matter what I say, or anyone else for that matter. I'm not sure what to do at this point, because I don't want her hurt, or drugged to make her work. So far as I can tell, she is doing this willingly and not fighting him.
I followed her and Phillip last night and saw where she's been working. I counted nine customers and she turned all the money over to Phillip. Given her age and appearance, she apparently is an easy sell.
In a nutshell, my nine year old daughter is whoring for a teenage **, and I'm not sure where to go with this.
I'm just at my wits end.
Cate.
He i just using your daughter very dangerous if i was u tell him to get lost having ** with a stranger your daughter could get hurt money is not everything please do it before it is too late from greg
I guy could slip a pill into a drink and then raper her
Your daughter and this guy could be at a restruant and an under cover detective could be watching spendind a lot of money that then follow them please get your daughter out i am begging u could take a pill could die i am sorry but that is the truth
I hope u are not mad at me about your daughter lola just my opoinion from greg to cate
Hi Cate,
I read your post further down and I'm happy for Lolo, almost jealous of the little '**" lol that she could get pregnant at any time. Mum wants Ren and I to wait until we're 14 to get pregnant. She said long ago that we can do whatever she does and whatever we want within reason. She got preg but doesn't want Ren and I to get preg yet. We asked our bio mum if we can get pregnant and she said "ask Belinda" We're going around in circles with this but the aim is for us to get pregnant together so Ren's baby and my baby can grow up together.
Mum said there is a 250-1 chance of Ren and I having twins because we are twins and she said she couldn't manage with 6 babies in the house or 2 toddlers and 4 babies even though Ren and I said we'll take care of our own babies. Mum's twin baby girls were 18 months old yesterday. They were born on 6th September, 2018. Ren and I gave them each a cigarette a few months ago and mum tried to get mad at us but she couldn't stop laughing so she is teaching them to smoke.
She still says Ren and I smoke way too much and says, all the time, "you are only 12 year old girls, f uck, she's been saying that since we were eleven and ten. she is so f ucked up about this Coronavirus that she doesn't want us to have oral or penetrative s ex with guys without a condom. We love to 69 with our guys but we're allowed to have oral s ex with each other.
Give Lola a kiss on the cheek from me.
Lilly
Lily,
Posted you an answer further down from one of yours about a month ago.
Hope you are well. Lola is as active as ever, and I do mean active!
Write back!
Cate.
Where are Ren and Lilly, I miss them?
Lilly and Ren you're very wise not to do drugs. I admire you for that and I'm appalled at the young lady and her mom for taking that **
My dad left me and mom long ago. I only answer to mom and she does drugs too. When I'm 21 I'm gunna go out to bars and we're gunna pick up blokes to **.
Oh yes I can imagine what I'm missing out on alright. a life of crime through taking drugs, jail time, stealing from my parents to feed my drug addiction . Not getting a job, not going to uni and f ucking up my life for good.
I guess your dad is okay with you doing all that f ucking **.
Lilly
Don't call me a mad ** just bc I take drugs. Have you ever tried them? Nooo
I bet you haven't and you don't know what the ** you're missing when you're getting laid when your off your face and **.
Hey Lilly and Ren
I am a little bit older than you, I'm 14 and I've been smoking, having ** and drinking for years. Have you ever taken hard drugs, I don't mean just smoking cannabis? I smoke that all the time at home with my mom. I mean harder drugs than that like cocaine, ecstacy and LSD. They give me such a buzz and a high and it's so ** amazing when I'm as high as a kite getting **.
I love Vodka and I like to drink that too.
When I started smoking , I used to hide it by keeping a separate set of clothing to smoke in.
I used to put my hair in a bun before I went out with my friends and smoked.
Then I'd wash my hands to get rid of the smell after I have smoked.
I used to freshen up my breath with mouthwash after I had a few cigarettes.
Then after a few months, i thought ** it, I'm gonna tell mom I smoke so I lit a cigarette in front of her and she was okay with it.
How many do u smoke per day and what brand do u smoke
I smoke about 60 cigs a day and I smoke American Spirits Black
What about your mum how many per day and what brand
My mom smokes about 4ppd of Newports. She's not a mad ** either just cos she gets off her face with drugs. I like the most of the men she brings home to **
You're a mad f uck, why would you want to do drugs?
If I wanted to get high I'd hire a f ucking helicopter.
Lilly
Greg,
I missed the post where you asked how I am. I'm all good thanks and I hope you are too. I'm taking Ren and Lilly out to lunch shortly although it's bucketing down in Sydney with rain.
Undoubtedly they will have sushi. They like to eat healthy food although they smoke.
Belinda
That's so sad, why the f uck didn't your mum stand by you instead of putting you out to Foster care.
She's a f ucking m ole.
Lilly
I don't want to say my name other than that I'm a girl. I smoke about 30 cigarettes a day. I modeled myself on Demi Moore, I liked her badass childhood ways. I got into the wrong crowd early in life. I drank, smoked and had **. My father put me in rehab but it didn't make any difference. I wasn't concerned about the authorities and kept running away from foster care. I was allowed to return home after some counselling. My mother then let me smoke to keep the peace.