I allow my child to smoke

Lilly and Ren.
My name's Veronica and I'm 14 how old is Belinda bc I'd love to have her as a mom

Wags
Here's the link of the newspaper article about kids smoking at school

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/children-as-young-as-15-allowed-to-smoke-at-recess-and-lunch-at-warrakirri-college-in-sydneys-west/news-story/d191ece4fe31ba6ef7e5168af4b8843a

Ren

Wags,
Lilly holds the record at the school for being suspended for smoking. Twice last year she was caught for smoking at lunchtime behind the amenities block with me and two other girls. After the first two warnings a letter went home to mum warning she'd be expelled if it happened again.
Then once after that she was caught smoking at a cafe and a teacher walked through the arcade that was nearby. I took the blame so she wouldn't be expelled and said it me who was smoking. Another time she burnt a hole in her school uniform when she was sitting on a boys's lap smoking and he grabbed her **. She hit the end of her cigarette to get his hand away and that's when she burnt the hole. Mum went mad at her and had to buy her a new school tunic bc we have 3 winter uniforms and 4 summer uniforms each lol.

We only ever got 2 cigarette breaks a day at school but we needed more than that and if we want to smoke after school we must change out of our uniform.
Ren

Ren
You or actually allowed to smoke at school, id live to see you two smoke

We're allowed to smoke in the school staff room
Ren. There is a school in outter western Sydney that allows smoking. It is for kids who come from broken homes and the principal allows them to smoke so they will attend school. I will send you a link so you can read it. The kids there are very well behaved. Mum wants to send Lilly and me there to do our last couple of years of high school but we'll have to catch 2 buses and one train each way to get there from where we live.

Greg
How old were your kids who are now 5, 7 and 9 when they started smoking and whose idea was it to get them smoking, yours or your wife's?

Lilly.

Ren and Lilly
Your mum is doing the right thing in NOT allowing you to use social media
and give your details out **-nilly. Be more grateful of her. Belinda allows you to smoke, drink in moderation and have ** and I don't hear about her going off at you for using foul language on here although I love it.

For Christ's sake you're too harsh in that she won't let you get in cars with blokes that have had too much to drink or drugged and off their faces, ever thought she cares about you? ** I thought you girls were smart.
Pam

Wags,

Find a cute guy and smile at him and ask him for a ciggie, that might work for you. I feel so sad for you :(

All girls should smoke.

Lilly.

I’m a lad so that one my not work 🤣 do you guys have WhatsApp it’s text but jus free internationally

Wags

Wags,
I didn't realise you are a guy, although I know that Callum is usually a guy's name. Duh. We've told mum many times that whatsApps is harmless but she won't let us use it. A couple of years ago before the babies were born we went on a holiday to New York with her and dad and met a great girl we would have loved to stay in contact with and mum got to know her and her family well. They live in Perth which is about 4,000 kilometres from Sydney.

There are a few things mum won't let us do besides using social media, like when we go to a party we have to be outside the gate by 1am so she can pick us up. She wont let us get in to cars with guys bc they might have been drinking or been on drugs or speeding and showing off. If we don't meet her at the gate by 1am on Sunday mornings, she'll come in and drag each of us twins by one arm and bring us out and embarrass us. We are only allowed to take three quarters of a bottle of Vodka to a party between the two of us, she said that's enough for 12 year old girls to drink. When we go to parties and one has to go to the bathroom, the other one has to look after our drinks so they won't be spiked.

Those are the things we don't like about her. It'd be better if she trusted us to be driven home by guys but I might agree with her that leaving our drinks is a bit risky.

Do you have an aunty or uncle you can trust and talk to about smoking, they might be able to buy them for you and do they smoke?
Lilly.

Hi lilly I have another Nan that does and could maybe say something to her but I barely ever see her as things regarding my dads side of the family are really awkward I jus wish i could be able to smoke as freely as you and Ren how’d you manage to smoke at school

Wags,
Mum was oncve a school teacher and so she homeschools Ren and me 2 and a half days a week and oversees our online studies. She was once a school teacher. The other two and a half days and Saturdays until 3pm she works at her hairdressing salon. Her girlfriend and her own it jointly and have 9 staff. She promised she'd homeschool us this year and that was before the coronavirus ** happened. Mum also tutors 3 of our other girlfriends an she gives us a cigarette break every half an hour. The other girls attended the private girls' school we went to and their parents often come to our place with these friends for dinner parties.

Surely you'd be able to see your nan if you want. Mum has been reading these comments and said your family has no right at all to say who you can or can't see or can and can't speak with. She said it will further divide your family and may be you will resent your own mum if they stop you talking or seeing them

It's gr8 to see that Lilly is back at her filthiest best. OMG I love this little foul mouthed **. The twins ROCKKK

Hey Wags,

Hi b*tch, haha it's Queen b*tch Lilly here. I hope you don't mind me writing. I'm not trying to get between you and my twin sis but do you get pocket money from your parents so you can buy ciggies. If you was a sister of us two, mum would let you smoke honey. She is a good mum but sometimes she is over protective and we hate that. I'll talk to you later. She kinda cringes when Ren and me call each other 'a little c*nt" or "a little wh*re" or "sl*t" or "b*tch but only in a loving way and she thinks we're badarses. We're in Sydney, where ru?

Love Queen B*tch Lilly.

Hey lily,
I don’t get no pocket money or nothing like that but I work, however it’s hard for me to cigs cos I have to go and find a pal who’s older than me to get them for me and that’s not easy where I’m living, I’m from London

Wags

Hi Wags,
Well you might have read that Belinda who has written on here and other smoking sites is not our real mum and that she's dad's partner. dad left mum and lived with Belinda when Lilly and I were two and she was 17 and in her second last year of high school. She then went to uni - teacher's college and became a school teacher but she hated it and after he first year she bought a hair dressing salon and beauty parlour with her girlfriend.Dad was 26. Lilly and me lived at home with mum and when we were 6 there was an older girl aged 10 who lived in our street where we lived with our real mum who was allowed to smoke. Her mum got Lilly and me smoking when we were 6 and she had boys that came around (you know what I mean?.) At first we hated Belinda for separating mum and dad but we soon became to love her and now we call Belinda mum and we wanted to live w/her and dad. Belinda was mad and wanted to go to that girlfriend's place and have a good talk to her mother about getting Lilly and me into drinking, smoking and having s ex. That girl who was ten is 16 now and she's a heroin addict. We hated going away on holiday with Belinda and dad from the time we were 7 bc we couldn't smoke and when we told Belinda that when she finally let us smoke we told her that. Belinda said we should have told her we were smoking and she would have let us smoke when we were 7. Belinda always makes sure we see our real mum once a week bc she and our real mum are good friends. Belinda and dad have another set of twin girls who will be two next month, so the babies are like our step sisters.

It seems as though we can talk freely here Wags
Ren

Hi Ren,
Yh It’s fine talking on here jus thought it might be easier somewhere else and could maybe talk more often, your so lucky you can smoke freely babe it’s so hard for me, how many do usually smoke a day and where are you from ?
Wags

Wags,
I mean mum only calls me Renae when she mad at me. She calls me Ren all the other times.

Hi Ren,
My sisters are 10 and no they don’t smoke, I’m dying fora a cig at the moment it’s unreal, how did you and lily first try smoking?
Wags

Wags,
I will talk to mum and see if she will let me use her email address but i don't think I'll have much luck just give me time o get up the courage. She used to talk to a lady on one of the other smoking sites but she had an email address connected to dad's. She didn't use her own private one bc she uses that for her business. Maybe about the middle of last year Lilly, me and another girl made a Youtube vid of us smoking but you couldn't see our faces very well bc we exhaled our cigarette smoke into my bedroom mirror when we were smoking. We just wanted to see how many hits we could get. Mum went f ucken mad at us and said said "Renae delete that ** stuff" Aww she only calls me Ren when she's mad at me lol. She said we're pretty smart girls but we're very foolish sometimes and said even tho we deleted it it will still leave a print on my computer.

Mum is pretty rad and I'll tell you more about her later

How old are your twin sisters and do they smoke?

Lilly and me are not full on Goth but we want to wear Goth clothes for a change, mum is not real keen lol.

Ren

Also this is my snapchat if any girls want to send me a video of them smoking it will be welcomed @wagsy0905

Our mum is sad for you that you can't smoke. My twin sister Lilly and me have been smoking since new years eve when we were 9. Mum gave us a few alcoholic drinks and we got a tipsy but not drunk. Lilly then told our mum we smoke and she gave us each a cigarette. Sh was surprised at well well we could snap inhale so after giving us a talk about how unhealthy it is with cancers and things she let us choose if we wanted to smoke. We said we did so she bought us each a few packets of cigarettes and a gold lighter each. The lighters are the expensive brand called "Allure". Mum also said it'd be hard for you to get your parents to approve you to smoke because as you say, they don't smoke. Our mum thinks we are such badasses for smoking but she likes us smoking.

Keep in touch, sorry we can't go to the social media sites. Mum doesn't trust snapchat, facebook, twitter, emails or anything else because a lot of them get hacked.

What is your name

Renae (Ren)

Hi Ren,
My names Callum but everyone calls me wagsy or wags just a nickname lol so eithers fine it cost me so much money to smoke as I have to pay like £5 extra per box and the. I’ve got the trouble of not having me mum find out so I have shower after a ** it’s a pain in the ** **, have you not got any socials?

Hiyya Callum,

I'll get back to you later, mum is taking us shopping, we want Goth clothes. I was just checking to see whether you're in touch. I'll get back tomorrow.
it's f ucked that your mum doesn't let you smoke.

Lilly says hi.

Ren

Hi Ren, are you and lily goths then, it’s even harder to get cigs since my nans quit I couldn’t even let my mum find out I smoke, do you think you could get messenger so we could keep in touch easier, my sisters are twins too

Wags

Callum,
What do you mean when you write have I got any socials. Lilly and me bought our Goth clothes but we want to have our hair died black or purple but mum said we've got lovely blond hair. She can do it, she's a hairdresser and makeup artist.

After we shopped we went to a cafe and we all had lunch, coffee and a cigarette in the outside smoking area.
Ren

Hi Ren,
Like do u not have messenger or any way of contacting more easily? If I were you I’d keep the blonde hair I always think it’s looks better then black, I’m dying fora a cig it’s actually unreal

Wags

I’m 15 and smoke when I can get cigarettes but neither of my parents do so it’s difficult I think what made me want to smoke was both my nans smoking around me, reading the post makes me want to let my children smoke but what are your reason for doing so

Just do it

U do not need a reason just let your children smoke

I did i have 3 children 5 and 7 and 9 year old

How old are you and how did you first start them smoking

Ren, Lilly and all,
About a week ago I wrote that my mom is teaching my 4 year little sister to smoke. She's doing so well at smoking now and she is inhaling every drag. Last night was the first time she woke up to have a cigarette. I told mom that she might be ready to start having s** but mom said she's too young and too small, what do you think.

Ren and Lilly where are you. I like hearing from you?