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Im happy with my kids smoking

I have 2 girls ones 10 and the oldests is 13. Me and my hubby are heavy 40+ smokers, I smoked all the way through both my pregnancies with no intention of quitting and both came out fine. i let them smoke when they were 10 and 7 and me and my partner were quite happy about it we've been happily smoking for years and the fact our kids now joined in felt great to do together, 3 years later there both on a pack a day(even more on weekends). I feel bad sometimes because obviously all the potential health problems but I was smoking when I was there age it's just good fun basically.

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    • Belinda,
      Young girls being crude is a Godsend these days. I love it and I'm a professional business woman. It's also good to know your twins ** and drink alcohol and smoke.
      I love it

    • Liliana,
      Do you smoke when you're being
      f ucked? I love it because it stimulates my c unt and it makes me org asm
      Lilly

    • Liliana,
      I've told Lilly before never to speak or write to adults in the manner she has written to you. If you find her language offensive then please ignore her and don't respond. The word c unt is most offensive however I've used it myself, albeit, sparingly.

      Sometimes Ren and Lilly call each other a c unt but it's usually in a living way. Other times they call each other that when they have an argument.
      Belinda.

    • Karen and Liliana,
      Mum put on a cocktail dinner party for her clients at Christmas and Ren and I were allowed to attend. We were 12 then. As always she dressed us in the same clothes. We wore black leather micro mini skirts, red blouses and thigh high f uck me boots. Aunt came too and she kept looking at me talking to one of mum's make clients, she said he was over 40 but f uck he was hot. She said she couldn't stop noticing how hard I was pulling on my cigarette and staring him in the eye and that it was the
      s exiest thing she's seen.

      Lilly

    • Liliana,
      All young girls should smoke and I get so f ucken ** rny when I'm smoking. I like to smoke when I'm being f ucked. Mum is a hairdresser and she does ren's and my hair and she applies our make up when we go out so that we look older and can smoke in public. Mum wants us to dress smartly when we go out with her and she us to wear the same clothes. F uck everyone knows we're twins because we are identical.
      Lilly

    • Hey Ren!
      Yes, youre so right, all girls should smoke. And youre not the only one who gets ** from smoking. Even I do, after 20 years of smoking. And same with nadja. She always loved watching herself smoking in the mirror and you have no idea how often Ive seen her touching herself then.
      So cool your mom is a hairdresser. I buy and sell stuff online, mostly 2nd designer fashion and vintage handbags. So Im not a hair and makeup pro but its enough to make me look hot. And Nadja has been experimenting with makeup for years too and shes quite skilful when it comes to making herself look 4 years older. Of course its not just a makeup thing, clothes are the main part.
      How you girls dress normally? Like me Nadja ALWAYS loves showing off as much as possible. Short top, naked midriff, low-waist jeans or mini skirt and of course a cig in hand or mouth is one of our fav all day outfits. For partying we have some more extreme stuff of course... Nadja is also alot into ripped stuff; scissors are her best friend when it comes to make her clothes shorter and sexier. No idea how often she had been sent home from school for inappropriate clothing but who cares. And now during the pandemic it doesnt matter anyway with online classes.
      Liliana

    • Lilana,
      One of mum's favourite photos is of Lilly and me with a cigarette between our index fingers and the one next to that with the two other fingers resting on and pointing to our ** and our thumbs in the pocket of our shorts when we do that. Mum has also bought us clothes online and stuff from aporn shop online. Sosexy
      Ren

    • Dear Belinda/Ren/Lilly,
      Ive been reading here for a while and just want to tell you how much I adore you. You‘re an amazing family and the way how you Belinda guide your girls into fun life and how you Ren and Lilly follow Belindas footsteps is totally inspiring.Im a quite a young mom myself (31 yo) and raising my daughter as a free spirit too. Nadja is 14 and I want her to enjoy her youth to fullest extent but of course with responsibility. She always had her own head which you might see from the fact that one day when she was 8 I came home too early and too silent and saw her smoking at the pool. Smoking, not just puffing, so its been obvious she had been practising for a whike already.
      I stayed in the back, watching her smoking until she was finished and then went to my car again. I was so confused and didnt know what to do. On the one hand, 8 was really young for smoking. On the other hand, I had started at 11 which is not that much older and after growing up in smoke its been a question of time that she would start somewhen. Plus I had seen she was really smoking, so making her quit would either be really hard for her or she would try to get her cigs anywhere else, shoplifting or doing stuff.

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      After thinking a while I came to the conclusion it would be the best not only to accept she had started smoking but also be supportive. So I went back home as if nothing happened, said hello to my girl and put a bottle of sparkling wine and two glasses on the pool table. Nadja was surprised and asked if we have something to celebrate and who is coming over. I told her its just the two of us and we celebrate that she was a smoker now. You should have seen her face, a mix of disbelieve, feeling guilty, fear. But before she could say anything I told her that theres no chance to deny as I had seen her smoking – and that I now want the two of us to smoke together, have a glass of sparkling wine and talk about how she started. Cant describe how amazed her smile was!
      Thats been about 6 years ago and its been really her kick-off into growing-up. It felt that from the day she was allowed to smoke at home (and of course only there) without sneaking she started maturing. She developed her own dressing style, she wanted me to teach her make up and we had really interesting talks which felt more like two sisters than like mother/daughter.
      And of course it's not just smoking, she step by step got into other things which are usually "inappropriate" for pre-teens but at some point I just loved her being a little badass and didnt try to keep her away from the fun stuff but teach her how to use it for her pleasure. Just like you Belinda did and do it with Ren and Lilly. No idea if Im doing this as good as you but Nadja thinks she has the best mom in the world (even if were fighting now and then) and Im so proud of my wild girl.
      Would love to talk to you all, so if you want to know anything, please write back – i would be very happy!
      Liliana

    • Lilana,
      The best thing to come out of this as you will we'll know is that Nadja now has your utmost trust as you have hers. I have said time and again, parents who smoke and forbid their kids to smoke are f ucking hypocrites. These same parents started at some point and it's my guess they were around ten years of age. Perhaps I'm too lenient with Ren and Lilly but I made it my business to allow them enjoy s ex, weed and alcohol. I also made it my business to allow them to smoke openly at 9 and it was me who alerted the entire family that my "little" girls are smokers. Only my brother took offence. Now the twins light up free-willingly at family functions and in front of my friends. Now this may come as a surprise, I have a 6 year old niece who's been smoking since she was 4. She smokes menthol cigarettes.
      Please stay in contact.
      Belinda

    • Belinda,
      thats so nice to read from you. Cool you alterted your family about your girls smoking. I would have done the same but as an only child and single mom I have no family left since my parents died in a car accident 8 years ago. But Ive always let Nadja smoke in front of friends who visited. One took offence just like your bro – why is why she is now an ex-friend. But all my close friends have at least accepted her smoking and most of them even acknowledged its cool how she smokes. And how she changed after she started. Looks, attitude, talking... which of course accelerated since she started having ** (first with girls, then with boys). Some would say too early but i dont care, its noones business except hers and mines and as long as she loves and enjoys – why not let her!? So I guess she has has any kind of adult fun earlier than myself, from smoking and drinking to weed and lots of **... and Im really proud of her!
      So cool what you write about your niece! Is she your sisters child? I had friend whose girl who was 6 when Nadja was 9... and she started her smoking. Soo fun, although Nadja since then thinks shes a late bloomer.
      Liliana

    • Liliana,
      So sorry to read about the loss of your parents especially with you being relatively young at the time without siblings and a young daughter to raise. I hope you're not struggling financially and emotionally. I was a difficult child growing up but in later years my mum and I grew closer together. I was in drug and alcohol rehab when I was 14 however I can now have a drink and smoke weed without being zonked out of brain thank f uck.
      Strangely enough I allow Ren and Lilly to drink and I will let them get drunk occasionally and smoke dope but they must be home otherwise I worry about whether they get home by ambulance or police car. Despite their objection, I pick them up from parties at 2pm and I've told them I'll enter the house they're in if they're not at the gate and grab each f ucking twin under the arm and drag them out.
      Belinda

    • Karen,
      I really hope Ella is pregnant because mum might change mind and let Lilly and me get pregnant.
      Then you and mum will have 3 "granddaughters"
      Ren

    • Ren,
      I know you wanna get preggo. We'll see about Ella. She doesn't wanna take her f ucking preggo test, so we'll have to wait at least a month. I'm fine with that since she doesn't wanna quit smoking anyways, so it doesn't matter if she's preggo or not.
      Justin and Sam have pretty much been f ucking and sleeping with each other every night. Justin pretty much only uses his room during the daytime. But we make sure Sam takes her pill every day. From what we can hear and see, since they leave the door open, Justin has become a pretty good little f ucker, even tho he's only 11. I guess you get f ucking better with practice!
      Karen

    • Karen,
      Ella will look Soo f ucking rad being preg. I wanna get f ucked until I'm pregnant.
      Lilly

    • Lilly,
      She would look rad. Me and Steve are just going thru your posts together, and he's more on the fence about this whole thing. I think she'd look sooo f ucking awesome, specially coz she doesn't intend to quit smoking if she's preggo, like I didn't. I luv luv luv seeing a young preggo woman smoking (so does Steve). I think if is soo **.
      Karen

    • Karen,
      If Ella's preg then I'm gonna f uck my ar se off til I get preg. I've told mum and I'm gonna smoke all the way through my pregnancy.
      Lilly

    • Belinda,
      Yup, she came back yesterday afternoon, pleasant as can be, and still using the her carpet as a giant ashtray. Karen noticed that she had taken off to her boyfriend's and left her contraceptive pills here. Knowing Ella, I am 99.9999% certain she had ** at least once or twice a day, so we'll see if she got herself pregnant.
      Steve

    • Steve,
      I ALWAYS ensure my girls take the pill every night with dinner. When they stay with their mum or my mum, the first thing I pack is their contraceptives. I tell their mum and my mum to watch them swallow it. There's no excuse for not taking it.
      Belinda

    • Belinda,
      We also make sure the girls take the pill but Ella kinda just went off on a bender. I hope she's not pregnant. But if she is, at least she'll be 17 in a couple of months. Seems like "kids" and "worry" are synonyms if you're a parent!
      Steve

    • Steve,
      Has Ella returned home?
      Belinda

    • Belinda,
      You may remember that a while back, Ella decided she didn't want to deal with ashtrays anymore and started using the carpet in her room as such. She, her bf, our other 2 kids all stamp out their cigs on her carpet. Every day she vacuums up the butts, at least. Well, her carpet is pretty much kaput, now, and yesterday she comes up and says, "Dad, i need you to put a new carpet in my room". I said, "OK, but you're paying for it." She says, "F uck you, Dad. I ain't got no money to buy a f ucking carpet!" So I said, "Well, then you'll have to put up with what you've got." Well, she argued a while longer, and finally said, "Fine! I don't really need no f ucking carpet!" She stamped out the cig she was smoking right there on the living room carpet, grabbed a few times and left. She hasn't been some since--probably at her bf's. She's learning a hard and valuable lesson from this. I'm glad I let her learn it the hard way. If I had gotten into with her at the beginning and told her to use an ashtray, it would have been just another rule to follow.
      Steve

    • Steve,
      I saw this message when i got up at 6 this morning to go to work and I've been stewing over it since. I couldn't reply immediately, I needed time to give it some thought. Now I have that time as it's 1pm and I'm having lunch, well an apple, ciggie and a cup of coffee anyway. I don't know what possesses Ella to stomp on her cigarettes on carpet even though she vacuums. I cannot understand why a young girl doesn't take pride in her habitiat. having her save up for new carpet is your best response. Lilly burnt a hole in her black leather micro mini skirt with a cigarette at Christmas I bought her the first time she wore it and wanted another one. I made her save up for it to appreciate the things she gets in life. Ren left her phone off months ago when she went off in in huff so I her took it away from her for a week. I was frantic and I couldn't contact her. I said "it's apparent you can live without a phone so learn to be without it for 7 days young lady".
      Belinda

    • Steve,
      What I was trying to say was I didn't want to rush my reply. I wanted to give it my undivided attention.
      Belinda

    • Belinda,
      Understood. Thanks.
      Ella still hasn't come home, but she's staying with boyfriend (I called his mother). The best I can make of it is she really hates cleaning ashtrays, and perhaps at first didn't realize how bad her carpet can get. I was talking with Sam and she said Ella wished she had a tile floor that would be easy to clean. Well, good luck with that--no way she can afford it any time soon.
      Steve

    • Steve,
      F ucking generation "Y" kids, why we have to put up with their constant sh it is beyond me. If Sam's stomping out butts on her bf's mother's carpet, who's cleaning up that f ucking mess?

      Lilly's complaining on here that I won't buy them cigars any longer, they're $48.95 for a tin of 10. Besides I don't like the look of young girls smoking cigars, especially in the street. It's on parr with girls spitting, I won't tolerate it. They get more lee-way in life than most girls among their group. I mean don't get me wrong, I enjoy smoking cigarettes with them and I don't think anything of it that they enjoy drinking and having s ex.
      Belinda

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    • Karen,
      Another expression we use here is "we're going out on the p iss tonight" as an example. Which is to say "we're going out on the booze. Dad said he thinks the expression comes from when you drink a lot beer, it makes you p iss more. He heard a group of louts at a pub near his army base yell out to a barmaid "more
      P iss miss" lol.
      Ren

    • Ren,
      LOL.
      I guess the closest we'd be able to come to that is, "more booze, flooze" (as in floozie) but that would just get you slapped! LOL.
      Karen

    • Karen,
      Don't ask, just don't f ucking ask. That guy I had dinner with last Saturday night then went on to a hotel room was as boring as cat's p iss. At dinner I did all the talking and I had to counsel him over a previous failed relationship. All he spoke about was her. Anyway, after dinner we ended up at the hotel and
      only f ucked the one time. We were to stay the night, as planned but I said I was going home about an hour after we arrived. He whined like a f ucking
      b itch saying he spent $420 on the tariff so I went with him to an ATM and withdrew the money and refunded him. I would have much rather ** myself. He told me he'd still see me for haircuts however I told him not to bother. Then I thought about it and realised I'd be missing out. I charge $30 for men's haircuts but I'll be charging him an extra $10 if he wants his eyebrows trimmed.

      Belinda

    • Belinda,
      That's a f ucking bummer. And to be out 420 to boot. Some guys just are f ucking clueless. I think we've all gone out with our fair share. That's what I love about Steve. He's smart, funny, good conversationalist, knows how to treat a lady, and is still one of the best f ucks I've had. We do swing a fair amount, but few guys have been betters f ucks than Steve. Now...that in no way means I don't enjoy the variety!
      Sorry, about the sh*tty date night, Belinda. Hopefully the next one will be a lot better.
      Karen

    • Karen,
      I don't think there will be another one night stand for me. I'll stick with our group of friends although Rick is more alpha male. Ren and Lilly are afraid that I'll fall in love with another man and leave them. In there own words they've told me "they don't want me to f uck around. I've sat on each of their beds at night talking about the subject but they said "mum just don't f uck up our beautiful family, we've been through that before when Dad left our real mum for you and we still remember how hurt we were although we were only two. We thought you were a f ucking b itch but now we have come to love you".
      Belinda

    • Belinda,
      Kids sometimes really do keep us out of trouble, don't they!
      karen

    • Karen,
      I have to learn that it's not all about me. I can fully understand and accept their wishes no matter how much I try to sugar coat my promiscuous ways. I love Ren and Lilly as I do my own kids. I may be out of order here in stating that I love them a tad more than Liberty and Summer.
      Belinda.

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    • Karen,
      A pack of Marlboro here has just gone up to $46 and there are 25 ciggies in a pack.
      Lilly

    • Lilly,
      That's f ucking insane. We get 20 in a pack and in Missouri, it's about $5 a pack. Now in f ucking California or New York it's at least twice that.
      But, WOW, I'd be up sh*t creek where you're at! Lately I'm up to 2.5-3 packs a day! (Did I ever tell you I'm a huge f ucking hedonist? lol)
      Karen

    • Karen,
      I only heard of the word hedonistic a couple of weeks ago. Mum was talking to her girlfriend and she said she's hedonistic. Then they talked about s ex, drugs and booze. As well as smoke weed every night, mum snorts Coke a bit. I looked up the meaning and my understanding of it was then confirmed.

      Mum won't let Ren and I snort yet she says we can do anything she does within reason.
      WTF?
      Lilly

    • Lilly,
      Coke is best left alone altogether. It's a drug that's real f uckin' hard to keep under control. It's addictive hooks are very long and go very deep. I did coke a few times and soon found myself constantly wanting it--and more of it. I quickly decided I needed to stop and never use it again. It's even harder when you're younger. Listen to Belinda; she's got a f ucking good head on her shoulders.
      Karen

    • Karen,
      Mum said we're NOT gonna do coke and that's final. She said if we start she'll have our ar ses in rehab quick smart. Another thing too is that she won't buy us cigars. We like Wee Willems and they are about the same thickness and length as cigarettes. She said young girls shouldn't smoke cigars but she smokes them. Dad bought us the last tin so we asked dad to buy them for us again, he said "ask your mum if he can buy them for us and when we did she said no. F uck, we've got dad around our little ** and mum has got her little ** around him. Whatever mum says goes. She wants Ren and I to smoke Virginia slims because they are long and look s exy. We don't like menthol ciggies, we prefer Marlboro Golds anyways.
      Lilly.

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    • That post about getting on the ** is from me,
      Ren

    • Karen,
      Do Americans use the term to get p issed meaning drunk? aussies use it a lot.
      It may be that drinking alcohol makes you p iss. An expression we use here is for example is that "w're gonna get on the p iss tonight".

      I Googled it and here's a meaning.

      https://www.google.com/search?q=meaning+of+**+when+drunk&oq=meaning+of+**+when+drunk&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i390l4.9223j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    • Ren,
      No we don't use p issed in that way. Here it means you're unhappy and mad, like "I'm p issed", or "Now he's really p issing me off." There are a lot of terms referring to being drunk. Mostly, we just say "drunk", but there's blitzed, bombed, stinkin', hammered....
      Karen

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