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My husband and I are both heavy smokers. My 11 year old daughter was smoking in her room when I unexpectedly walked in on her. After the awkward moment passed, we talked and found out she has been smoking for nearly half a year and is addicted. I told her it was OK for her to smoke. I feel a bit guilty but not too much, for some reason. My husband flat out didn't care if she smoked or not. I wonder if I did the right thing. I know smoking isn't very healthy, but at her age, I guess it isn't doing all that much harm. Besides, how can I tell her not to smoke if I keep puffing away at 2 packs per day. Neither my husband nor I are about to quit. We love smoking too much for that. So instead I watch my little girl puffing away at the rate of 1 pack a day. She smokes like it's nothing. She reminds me of myself when I was around her age.
It was Mothers' Day yesterday but we got all the presents. There was so much alcohol, cigarettes and c ock going around but unfortunately the party had to end sometime.
Ren, Lilly and Oskana
By Mother's Day next year, all of the moms and daughters here will be dead from lung cancers or STIs or liver disease or all of the above. Some will die sooner than others but none will be missed.
Huh, that's a f ucking wide statement you're making. ALL the mothers and daughters,you say?
You're a fucktard
Lilly.
And your a pos
Ren and Lilly,
That anti poster may be an alcoholic, he/she doesn't say anything about drinking. Alcohol CAUSES more deaths than smoking and rooting. Think of all the drunk drivers and domestic violence around because people drink. At least we are happy drunks. I'd hate it if he/she were one of our parents. Why don't these kinda people post on an anti site and leave us little b itches alone so we can enjoy ourselves?
He/she needs to do the math. You mum started smoking when she was 11, you two started smoking when you were 6. I started when I was 8. My mum started when she was 14. How would our smoking cause our death to us in 12 months time?
That person leads a dull life I'd say.
Love Oskana ** oo **
It's not my page but I think that lady may have been talking about the effects of alcohol use when she mentioned liver diseases (like ARLD or cirrhosis). I'm not supporting her. I'm just saying.......
Party on........
I misread that, so my apologies. His post won't stop us from drinking, smoking and f ucking. We enjoy all three far too much for that. You're welcome to comment and I thank you for your encouragement.
Oskana
Our parents allow us to smoke, our mums in particular and they don't want us to stop. They enjoy having a cigarette with us. They have told us many times that although we smoke, have ** and drink, we are better behaved and more mature than most kids our age. We are able to concentrate on our homework and study better when we're home as we smoke too and that's showing in the results we achieve during our school exams.
Ren, Lilly and Oskana.
Don,
Lilly and I love and have more respect for our Belinda mum more than we have for our natural mother. She is easier to talk with. It wasn't all that way though, we despised her before we started to live with her and dad about 17 months ago.
Prior to that we went on holiday with them and we hated it because we were 7 and we were smokers and could only smoke when we went to the shops after taking a couple of Belinda's cigarettes out of her packet. When we lived with them from the time we were 9 I told her that Ren and I smoke and that we often stole her ciggies. That's when she allowed us to smoke and she said had we told her we were smoking when we were 7, she would have told us it is okay for us to smoke.
We told her we were having ** as well and she arranged for us to take the pill.
Belinda and dad has total custody of us now and she often tells us she likes the idea that we drink, smoke, swear and
f uck.
Ren
Ren and Lilly,
It seems to me that you're both super hot to ** and you can thank Belinda for being so open minded to allow you so much freedom to enjoy an adult life at the tender age of 11.
Don't be harsh on her for limiting you to share a bottle of vodka when you go to parties.
She has done a splendid job in raising you and for that you have to be thankful to her. She gets my admiration for giving up work next year to home school you just so you can smoke more freely.
Don
Cate,
We love org ies and have had quite a few over the last year. We've had pre-teen org ies but now Ren and I are also going out with twin 21 year old guys and mum doesn't mind at all that they f uck us. We also like to get drunk but mum will only allow us to take one bottle of vodka to party between us. She says we will get alcoholic poisoning if we drink a bottle each. We can take 6 cans of vodka cruisers each. She said that's enough but we always find someone with a bottle of vodka and we take a few sips out of the can and top it up with Vodka.
Mum and dad have been going to swingers parties lately and I'm sure Oskana wouldn't mind me saying, because mum has said) but mum told us that her dad is a dud f uck because he can't last long before he comes. Mum was left frustrated so she rolled over and lit a cigarette then she went into their bed where was having it off with Oskana's mum and dad had to finish mum off to satisfy her. Her dad gave some weak excuse that mum is so hot that's why he couldn't control himself he said. They still go to swingers parties and they've held a few at our place but mum refuses to let Oskana's dad to have s#x with her although she has f ucked a few of our other friends dad's.
Mum was once a school teacher and she said now that she's made up her mind to homeschool Ren and I she will ask other parents if she can homeschool their kids for a fee because a lot of our friends are allowed to smoke. Sadly a lot aren't though and this gets our friends into trouble for smoking.
Lilly.
Hi cate,
Mum’s application through the New South Wales Department of Education to homeschool Ren, me and our friend Oskana has been approved for the start of next year. We are all in the same grade and class at the school we attend. Oskana’s proper name is Oksana – the same as her mum but she’s known as Oskana to be different.
Mum and dad have a pretty heavy mortgage cos they had two additional bedrooms and an extra bathroom built onto our house just before the twin baby girls were born.
Mum said she sees a need for Ren and I to smoke as much as we need during the day and this is the reason for her decision. Mum and dad are converting our two car garage into a classroom and having it insulated with air-conditioning and carpet, desks and chairs.
Mum wants Ren and I to do our last year of high school at school so that we can obtain a reference that can be used as an entry into university.
She and dad will lose a lot of income because mum wouldn’t be able to work as many hours. She can sell her share of the hairdressing salon and make up parlour and do those things from home but she has to be aware of the neighbours in case they dob her in to council for operating her business at home. By homeschooling us she wouldn’t have to pay for uniforms and fees. The babies can be put into the one room at home and she can use the other room for her salon.
Have you ever thought about homeschooling Lola, it’s one way to ensure that she is able to smoke as many cigarettes as she wants?
Lilly.
Lilly,
Thanks for the input, but I prefer to have Lola in regular school for two reasons. First, I work a full time job. Second, I want her in school where she can have normal social interaction with other children. I think this is important.
Lola had a great time last weekend.
May 5th was her birthday and she turned nine. She spent all weekend at Phillip's house.
We met for breakfast on Saturday morning with Nina (Phillip's mom) as well as Phillip and his younger brother (he's eleven). After breakfast, Lola left with them. Phillip's two older brothers were with their father, who is divorced from Nina. Phillip and his younger brother have a different father (not ever married to Nina), but he has since returned to his home country in Africa.
Nina let me know she made a party punch for the kids and she spiced it up with some Southern Comfort. The kids managed to lose a lot of their inhibitions. Actually, Lola told me she got bit drunk!
Two other boys also joined up at Nina's house a bit later. Lola and the four boys spent Saturday and Sunday together doing what boys and girls do.
Let's just say Lola was the "party" as well as the center of attention! Nina kept an eye on things so it didn't get too out of hand.
For nine years old, Lola is becoming quite the experienced young lady.
Lola came home Sunday evening and was quite exhausted. I let her stay home from school on Monday, and I took a day off so we could spend time together.
We spent Monday having a "girl day" and talking a lot. And I mean a lot! I was a bit shocked at all she had done! She said she really held nothing back from me.
That's it for now. Later.
Cate.
Chrissie,
I wasn't going to answer you, you stupid c unt but now that I'm home from school and lit a ciggie I'm more relaxed. Mum took us to stay overnight with our bio mum and she said to her make sure Lilly and I take their pill with dinner tonight and she gave us a pack of cigarettes each. Our bio mum's boyfriend was there. As far as I know this was the first time he knew that we f uck. Once again, we didn't tell our mum's boyfriend we f uck you f ucking b itch.
Ren
Lilly and Ren,
If you didn't tell your mum's boyfriend you have ** then who did?
Chrissie
Chrissie,
I wasn't going to answer you because you're irritating the f uck out of me you
f ucking b itch. But now I've lit a ciggie and I'm more relaxed that I'm home I can do that. If it's any concern of yours, when mum dropped Lilly and I off at our bio mum's place she said to her, make sure the kids take the pill with dinner tonight. she left us with a pack of cigarettes too. Our bio mum's boyfriend was there . As far as i know this was the time time he heard that we f uck.
Ren
Ren and Lilly,
At least Chrissie paid you a couple of compliments but she's either a troll or a fucktard for stating you're to blame for your natural mum's boyfriend for getting a stiff c ock when you smoke. I know how much you two hate his guts.
Notice how Chrissie says she gets aroused when she sees young girls smoking. I think she maybe a lesb#an so we should watch out for her.
Oskana
F uck Chrissie you're a c unt. We are not accepting any blame for my bio mum's boyfriend playing with his c ock when we smoke and we're not going to refrain from smoking around him. We're not responsible If he gets a f ucking stiff c ock when we smoke and he's not going to f uck us.
Now stop assuming sh it and f uck off you b itch.
Ren
Ren,
LOL 11 year old Ren gives 43 year old Chrissie a roasting. Her twin, Lilly should post now making it a double-barrel shot. Just proves Chrissie and anyone else who wants to try, you can't ** with these little **. I've fallen in love with everything they post.
LOL 11 year old Ren gives 43 year old a roasting. All we need now is for her twin sister, Lilly to chime in to give her a double-barreled shot. These girls are a great character and make my day in everything they write. A warning to Chrissie and all, don't ** with them. I love these little **.
I don’t believe your natural mother’s boyfriend despises you or has any ill-feeling towards you. Quite to the contrary. Belinda is an outstanding mother to you. In my absolute opinion and belief, your biological mother’s boyfriend have both of you in mind to **. He’s not interested in a relationship with your biological mother. How many times do we hear of step fathers f ucking their step daughters. Ren and Lilly you should shoulder some of the blame for letting your mum’s boyfriend know you **. Now think of these things in any manner you like but that’s the reality here so please be careful. Furthermore I believe that you shouldn’t have told your mother’s boyfriend you **. That’s the whole reason he calls you **.
Above all I’m pleased that you girls f uck one another, I’ve read plenty about twins ** each other and I applaud it.
Enjoy it girls, your smoking, drinking and ** both men and girls brings out the rebelliousness in you both and for that I love you both for posting.
Chrissie.
Ren and Lilly,
I am a 43 year old mother of two grown up sons, now 18 and 20 years of age. Both are smokers and have been some years. I have been following you for some and I feel it’s time for me to add a comment although you’ve written to Cate.
I would have loved to have had daughters and Belinda is fortunate enough to be your mum so to speak, and to twin girls at that who are into everything like you two. I would have loved to encourage her to do the things you enjoy. Surprisingly, I find the profanities you girls use are not offensive to me. I like you using them. It’s my guess you and your circle of friends use the same language in every day conversation.
I’ve seen a handful of eleven year old girls smoking and it’s quite acceptable in my book and as I’ve said I encourage it. It’s a powerful thing watching young girls smoke and I get aroused myself by it but unlike your mum’s boyfriend sees in you. You’ve already witnessed him playing with a handful of his ** and ** when you smoke, you can’t be that naïve.
In my view you are real sweethearts and it’s also my guess that you have a mind of your own and do as you please, smoke, drink, ** and swear. I wasn’t that much older than you when I started smoking but I wasn’t permitted to smoke at home until I was 16. This is a different era now, parents are not to hit their children today for indiscretions that’s why I think more parents are giving them a freer rein and allowing them to do as they please to a certain extent.
Continued
I don’t believe your natural mother’s boyfriend despises you or has any ill-feeling towards you. Quite to the contrary. Belinda is an outstanding mother to you. In my absolute opinion and belief, your biological mother’s boyfriend have both of you in mind to **. He’s not interested in a relationship with your biological mother. How many times do we hear of step fathers f ucking their step daughters. Ren and Lilly you should shoulder some of the blame for letting your mum’s boyfriend know you **. Now think of these things in any manner you like but that’s the reality here so please be careful. Furthermore I believe that you shouldn’t have told your mother’s boyfriend you **. That’s the whole reason he calls you **.
Above all I’m pleased that you girls f uck one another, I’ve read plenty about twins ** each other and I applaud it.
Enjoy it girls, your smoking, drinking and ** both men and girls brings out the rebelliousness in you both and for that I love you both for posting.
Chrissie.
Cate,
It’s cool that Lola smokes, f ucks, drinks and has a tattoo. Lilly and I have a tattoo each on the inside of our forearm that runs from our wrist to our elbow. It just reads “Family” and it’s in Old English writing. Mum likes it but said leave it at that and no more. It’s also exciting that Lola can get pregnant without you or her giving a f uck about it. I wish our mum felt the same way, I get horn y thinking about it. You’d make a great nanny.
I know what you mean about Lola starting her period, when Lilly and I started (within days of each other) we had a massive growth spurt soon after and our ti ts have developed. We are a little over 5 feet 4 and we are the tallest students in our primary school. But we have been more sexually actively than any other time of our ** lives and this is when we can’t resist guys who make a move to f uck us.
Does Lola smoke in the presence of your family? When Belinda allowed my twin Lilly and I to smoke it almost tore "our" family apart. Her brother didn't want anything to do with her and when he married when we were ten he told her to leave us at home because he didn't want us to smoke at the reception because it would embarrass his new wife and her family. Mum said "my" kids are going or she's not going and they're going to smoke no matter what he wants or thinks. She said "her" kids are not going to sit at the table listening to boring speeches and be seated at a reception venue that goes on for 5 to 6 hours and craving cigarettes.
To cate Cont…..
She told him she’s got custody of us now and we are her kids. Mum was going to do the hair and make up of his new wife and the bridesmaids as a weddings gift but she argued with him about us smoking. Needless to say we didn’t go the wedding and mum didn’t do their hair and make up. We haven’t been to his place since he married but we go to BBQ’s and functions of other members of our family’s events and they have no issues at all about Lilly and I drinking smoking and having **, in fact mum’s sister says we’re quite cute, which is a little babyish, but still. Mum told us not to argue with family members about our smoking and other activities and should they have any problem with it, then speak with her. Now our grandparents accept our smoking and other things.
Our bio mum has a creepy boyfriend who says we are little sl uts cos we smoke, drink and f uck but when she is not around he strokes his d ick through his trousers when we are smoking and it nearly makes us puke. When mum allowed us to smoke she said men will pay us more attention because a lot of them have a smoking fetish and we should us that to our advantage. We didn’t expect mum’s boyfriend to be of them because he’s like family, he’s known us since we were three. He’s a f ucking **. He doesn’t like us, he despises us passionately and our bio mum has spoken with a lawyer about a way to evict him from her home. It’s not his home, dad paid for it when he and her divorced and he gave it to her and we lived solely with her.
To Cate Cont…
Lilly and I were sitting on the front steps when mark walked up the driveway. We've got a key to mum's house but we didn't want to go inside, in case he was there. We could see our bio wasn't home cos her car wasn't in the garage, As Lilly said, we were smoking her boyfriend was standing over us and he adjusted his c ock by putting his hand over his suit pants at the **. He had a smirk on his face indicating some kind sexual innuendo towards us. It nearly made me puke.He and our natural mum have not been getting on lately
When we’re at home with mum and dad we are usually naked, sitting on the lounge, holding hands, kissing and smoking and we’ve ** numerous times in front of them without them giving a f uck really and them going on with their business. We can’t do that at our bio mum’s place. We feel so uncomfortable there although there are times when Lilly and I get very horn y for each other.
Ren
Cate,
We love Belinda so much, dad's partner we now call mum. She can be very tolerant and lenient towards Ren and myself but sometimes she treats us like babies. When we go to parties, she wants to know the exact address and who will be there. She insists that we be at the gate by 2am otherwise she will embarrass us and come in and grab a twin (Ren and I) under each arm and lead us out. We're not allowed to be driven home by our boyfriends IN CASE they have been drinking too much for f ucks sake. When dad's not home, she gets our "step" sisters out of bed to come and get us and they're only 9 months old babies.
During school holidays she tells us not to smoke too much as we'll get more accustomed to smoking in more quantities and it will make it difficult for us to cut back when we return to school. She insists that this is advice only but she doesn't limit the amount we smoke and she likes the idea that we are badar$es and occasionally she calls us little b itches but in a loving way.
Lilly
Lilly,
I understand what she is probably feeling and the fact she's not your actual mom makes it harder for her to balance your situation.
I know with Lola, I have her interests always at heart, but I also realize I have to let her gain her own experiences in the world - even at age 9. I won't be the type of mom, hovering over her and destroying her independence or ability to do as much as she is capable of handling.
Not sure if this helps, but it's just my thoughts.
Looking forward to your thoughts on my handling of Lola.
Cate.
Cate,
I'm sure it's just because we broke mum's trust that she's doing this. Late last year when our curfew was to be home by 3am Ren and I arrived at 6.48 when she looked at the digital clock. She went to the party we were at but we had left with two random guys having ** and we had our mobile phones turned off. She rang all the hospitals and police stations in the area looking for us. She was waiting for us at the front door of our home and she was so relieved to see us arrive she cried or had been crying. What made it worse is that Ren and I were drunk.
I think mum should give us more leeway just like you give Lola and we've been telling mum for a long time that we want to get pregnant and have babies right now.
Lilly
Lilly,
A word of advice.
Be careful and don't get pregnant at your age. It could be a disaster for you.
Babies are a life-altering event that will change your life forever! Babies are not toys or a piece of status like a bracelet.
You have so much life ahead of you. Don't short change your future possibilities.
I would give Lola the same advice.
Cate.
Cate,
That may be true what you're saying but mum said we can have a baby when we're 15. To be fair, I didn't hear her say that but Ren told me it's correct. We spoke with mum about it and she said she initially told us we can have a baby when we're 15. She's changed her mind now telling us that she and dad have invested about $120,000 for each of us for our education so far and we're only half way through. Now she's saying finish school, go through 4 years of university and then have babies. That's ten years away. How unfair and f ucked is that. We want our kids to grow up close in age to mums babies. She finished by saying if we have a baby now, it will f uck up our lives.
Lilly
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Cate,
It's terrible to read that Lola lost her dad so young. It's makes me think that Ren and I are so fortunate to have our father who does so much for us girls and we come from a loving family. Although dad's partner is not our birth mother, we refer to her and call her mum. Our natural mother doesn't see us as much as she wants now because we can't tolerate her creepy partner who thinks he has the Goddam given right to bring us up when Ren and I have overnight visits. Ren and I sleep together when we visit then because there has been times we fear him. He calls us whores just cos we smoke and f uck.
Dad has had a series of serious talks to him and told him if it continues to watch himself and that if he has to get physical, mum's partner will come out second best.
Has Lola been involved in any pre-teen or gies? We've had a few now but in future they'll all be BYO as dad went
ballistic when the guys drank his alcohol.
We are permitted two cigarette breaks at school per day but are forbidden to smoke in school uniform although Ren has been suspended this year because of it.
Lilly
Lilly,
There is no smoking permitted at any American school by anyone, student or staff.
Lola doesn't drink alcohol as far as I know, although I have shared a little wine with her at dinner.
Lola's first sexual experience was with Phillip, and she has confirmed to me that she has also been with all of Phillip's brothers at various times. As far as experiences with other boys, she has not indicated any, but it would not surprise me if she had. Then again, she's just turning nine, so It's not as though she goes out all the time.
Phillip's mother and I have spoken and she is also aware of how it is with boys and girls. Let's face it, it's like breathing - once you start, you don't stop.
By the way, it was Phillip's mom who convinced me to let Lola get a tattoo for her birthday. She put me in contact with an artist who would do it with my
permission, in spite of Lola's age. Lola was just ecstatic with it. Best birthday ever, she claims!
Got to go for now. Later.
Cate.
Cate,
How does Lola get through the school day without smoking. We are permitted two cigarettes breaks a day but that isn't anywhere near enough? Patches are horrid, the leave us nauseous, itchy and we get a rash. Mum buys us Nicotine mist spray but it has side effects too. She spoke to the pharmacist who suggested we try that mist without spraying it directly down our throat (but on our tongue) and not to spray it on our lips but it's still irritating.
Kids should be permitted to smoke anywhere they please, without restrictions or limits like our school place on us. I'm pleased that you allow Lola to smoke, drink and have s#x.
You may have read that Ren and I are twins and we're going out with twin guys that have just turned 21 but they are good to us. Although mum has given us money to pay for own dinner when we're out with them, they refuse to accept it, saying we don't earn an income and they should pay anyway. They've been f ucking us for a couple of months now and when we went to their 21st, their mum said it's okay if we drink and smoke but a few of their family members were horrified.
Lilly
Lilly,
Sometimes it's a struggle for her at school.
In the morning before school, she has four or five cigarettes. School here is from 8 am. until 2:45 pm., so it's trying but not impossible. After school and at home she makes up for lost time. On weekends, she can smoke up to an extra one or two packs. All in all, about a full carton per week. Of course, I buy for both of us since we smoke the same brand.
She'll be spending this weekend at Phillip's house, so I'll give her a full carton to take with so she won't run out.
I think we're entering a new situation here, because Lola tells me she has been spotting. I think she,s going to be starting her periods soon. I got her some tampons to carry with her, just in case.
I'm amazed. Just going on nine years old and her periods are starting already, along with her other physical development. She has informed me that no matter what, she will not use birth control. She hates condoms and doesn't relish the effects of the pill. I suppose it's a situation we'll just have to deal with in time. She has already spoken with our ob/gyn. She understands Lola's feelings and said we can address whatever situation arises.
Just a few more days (May 5th) and Lola will turn nine. She says this birthday will be very special for her. Apparently quite a party is planned. I'm not overly concerned, because Phillip's mom will be there to oversee (?) (!) the festivities.
More like nine turning eighteen!
She loves her new tattoo and I suspect it won't be her last! I told her the one tattoo will be enough for right now, and she seemed happy with that.
She promises to fill me in on how the weekend goes.
That's all for right now.
Cate.